@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT please see the following for the Michael Ghozland Illinois Juv Hall with Bailey Glasser
Attached is the retainer agreements for the Ghozland Illinois abuse campaign.
All retainers should be sent to masstortintake@baileyglasser.com. and to michael@ghozlandlawfirm.com thanks… He has $100,000 in the campaign
@Cameron Rentch Sorry Cam I guess it didnt attach when I was in the air
@Cameron Rentch can we start Larry Jones Meso?
as soon as it I ready - should be today @Andy Rogers
@Andy Rogers have a call with Brett and TIP team in 10 min you can join
@Andy Rogers send invoice to BG for Asbestos due, let's get that cleared up asap
Okay, I am going to get a final number just to be clear
@Cameron Rentch I know today is your daughters birthday however I would really like to get this done. Below is an email I wrote for you to send to Craig from you. Please let me know your thoughts. I would suggest the same to Greg. Finally, I am glad to send it from me however I do think that Craig would really appreciate a call from you. Thanks
Dear Craig,
I hope this message finds you well. Shield Legal greatly appreciates your invaluable contributions throughout 2023. We’ve experienced unprecedented growth in our business, and as we usher in 2024, we are embarking on a strategic journey that will enable us to enhance our infrastructure while continuing to deliver unparalleled services to the legal sector.
As part of our restructuring efforts, we’re making significant changes to our sales team. Our initial move involves the transition of Andy Rogers from Vice President of Sales and Business Development to Chief Revenue Officer. This move is pivotal as we establish the support and infrastructure required for strategic growth while reinforcing our backend resources, which necessitates substantial financial investment.
From a sales team perspective, we are assembling a dedicated team of Sales Consultants whose sole focus will be expanding Shield Legal’s reach. We apologize for any communication delays, but we’ve been meticulously evaluating various go-to-market strategies, and we’ve settled on a plan that involves Sales Consultants who will commit 100% of their time as full-time W-2 employees of Shield Legal.
The major change for 2024 is that Shield Legal will take charge of all follow-up and additional sales activities. We will provide you and your clients with Looker Studio Dashboards and weekly delivery reports. Additionally, by the 5th of each following month, you will receive a detailed commission report for the previous month.
We are eager to maintain a business relationship with you that not only allows you to explore other lucrative opportunities but also provides you with the chance to earn commissions by referring business to Shield.
The door to potential full-time positions with Shield Legal remains open in the future. In the meantime, we are thrilled to extend an offer for you to join us as an Independent Sales Contractor. Please find the details below:
Role: Independent Sales Contractor
Responsibilities: • All sales must be approved by Shield Legal CEO or CRO. • Contractors will receive ongoing commissions for all sales made to the firms they bring in, based on the approved commission percentage (see below for 2024 percentages). • Monthly bonuses will be included in commissions, based on the monthly attainment criteria outlined below. • When representing Shield Legal, contractors are expected to maintain a high level of professionalism. • Contractors will cover their own business expenses unless pre-approved by the CEO or CRO, and only when not conducting other non-Shield related business. Compensation Plan: • Independent Sales Contractor ◦ 4% Commission on all approved sales ◦ 2% – 2.5% commission on all sales made by Shield to clients brought in by ISC ◦ Monthly Bonus Structure ▪︎ New Sales • $100,000 - $150,000: $2,000 • $150,001 - $200,000: $3,500 • $250,001 - $400,000: $5,000 • $400,001 +: $7,500 ▪︎ Up sales / renewals by Shield • $500,000 - $750,000: $2,000 • $750,001 - $1,000,000: $4,000 • $1,000,001 +: $7,500 I would be delighted to discuss this opportunity with you further or address any other questions or concerns you may have. We eagerly anticipate a prosperous 2024 and look forward to collaborating with you in all your ventures.
Best regards,
tell craig I will give him a call late today...let him know ive been sick still, and we wanted to get him something to review before we talk.
You will be sending this? And can I send to Greg myself?
schedule all for late todat after 3pm Flight delayed
I know he will be caught up on the percentages. I just want to make sure that we dont get backed into a Sean like deal where he gets all of the commissions. Bottom line as we spoke about he cannot grow these like I can.
Please get invoice to BG asap let’s get that cleared up
@Andy Rogers please check to ensure accurate • Illinois Juv Hall Abuse - BG - Bowersox - Shield Legal (currently at 205/ cap is 235) • MD Juv Hall Abuse - BG - Walsh - Shield Legal (currently at 127/ cap is 133)
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT - NEW CAMPAIGN
Cameron I am not sure if we started Sam and Dan’s AFFF campaign yet so I am reposting here.
• Meirowitz & Wasserberg - $300,000 for AFFF with Bailey Glasser -
• Est CPC - $2,700 - $3,000
• Limit - 107 Signed Retainers
• Distribution: All retainers should be sent to masstortintake@baileyglasser.com.
Documents attached:
On both medical auths I only need: Full client name Date of Birth Last 4 of SSN Client signature
@Andy Rogers can you send me current active remaining budgets for each campaign, including most recent payments made last week.
@Cameron Rentch Here is a link to the Google Sheet with everything you are asking for:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11OHNCuaVekJwAmvVwqVruposIPpbw72n/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103735641617721437324&rtpof=true&sd=true
Firm Name Case Type Budget Budget Remain Last Payment Date ACTS Chowchilla $350,000 $112,333 10/5/23 Big Horn Talcum Powder $30,000 $17,000 7/18/23 Bowersox IL Juv Hall Abuse $650,000 $89,725 1/4/24 Bowersox Michigan Juv Hall $450,000 $148,178 12/13/23 Bowersox MD Juv Hall Abuse $400,000 $182,900 9/26/23 First Law Gr MD Juv Hall Abuse $300,000 $300,000 9/12/23 Ghozland MD Juv Hall Abuse $300,000 $300,000 9/13/23 Ghozland AFFF $650,000 $126,352 1/9/24 Larry Jones Asbestos $100,000 $90,400 12/5/24 Luff Law RoundUp $300,000 $14,000 2/28/23 Meirowitz & Wasserberg AFFF $300,000 $300,000 1/10/24 Meirowitz & Wasserberg MD Juv Hall Abuse $500,000 $166,285 10/27/23 Rhine - BG MD Juv Hall Abuse $500,000 $57,243 10/18/23 Sbaiti & CO Camp Lejeune $300,000 $16,500 12/8/23 Van - BG MD Juv Hall Abuse $1,500,000 $744,751 9/25/23 Van - BG Michigan Juv Hall $1,500,000 $201,958 11/15/23 Van Law - ACTS Chowchilla $800,000 $486,318 12/11/23 Walsh - BG MD Juv Hall Abuse $600,000 $31,777 10/19/23
@Cameron Rentch Are you still okay with cost on Suboxone between $750-$850?
@Cameron Rentch Using your criteria for Kusyk
Base Criteria: • Have been prescribed Suboxone (dissolvable film) for opioid addiction or pain management • Used prescription Suboxone for at least six months before suffering injuries • Have one of more of the following injuries: tooth loss, tooth fractures, tooth decay, oral surgeries, tongue injuries, gum injuries within the last 10 years • Do not have a lawyer Cost per range $750-$850/per
- “cavities” only will NOT be accepted
- Add question. Were you or affected party ever convicted of a methamphetamine related crime? (if YES, DECLINE)
850-950 should be fine. We’ve not tested. Levin pap isn’t taking any longer
@Andy Rogers couple of notes
- you can delete AFK from your report. It is also 250K PFAS and 250K AFFF. I am watching this and managing this one.
- You had Sbaitit for MD Juv Abuse, that should be deleted
@Cameron Rentch so I had a thought on Craig:
4% on anything he works completely on his own. Which means he runs the account. He sinks or swims.
Bailey Glasser he gets 2.5% because of all of the work we are doing on that account. I think he would agree to this
Anything he hands over to us is then 2.5%. But he can decide if he wants to turn it over.
I’m ok with that if you think he will agree to it.
Probably better from you and I do think he would
I will send something just waiting on atty review
Sure float it out there as “a way you think you can solve”
FYI Thomas texted me that the money was sent. He hasn’t landed yet but promised me we could sit down on the morning and make sure
Okay. We’ll chat with you later. FYI FU is joining us for dinner tomorrow night
please tell Fu I said hi and miss her!
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT ALERT… I have attached the campaign information for Steve Babin for Human Trafficking. He is sending $50,000 for a test with us agreeing to connect with him about a quarter of the way in to access.
Here are the documents and I will let you know when the money hits. He is asking how fast we can start.
@Cameron Rentch Update for open Campaigns… https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-hZyB5JXuvOw67o48gNeMflT712WZXFi/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103735641617721437324&rtpof=true&sd=true
@Cameron Rentch I am heading to the airport now. This has been the longest 9 days of travel in a while…. However it has been productive for Shield.
@Andy Rogers ASAP please ask Babin if he will accept trafficking cases for all listed below or if it is ONLY the hotels.
@Andy Rogers https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/7fa215f6-01e9-4fca-b711-5760414b472c/page/ASVvC ACTS Birth Injury 21 signed 75200 used
@Cameron Rentch Please pause the ACTS Chowchilla and Birth Injury while I get this resolved. We have enough money right now to cover what has been delivered but I need to see if they are willing to send more
@Andy Rogers I can't just "pause". Also are you sure that Sandy has funds remaining here? I thought she either moved it or told us to not send any more to Doug on Chowchilla?
@Cameron Rentch She told us to slow down but went back and forth on what she was going to do. My records show that we moved $500,000 to her already $300,000 for Chowchilla. Which means we have a toal budget of $800,000 with $492k remaining. We can deliver on that if we want and I can confirm if she wants any of it moved and how much.
@Cameron Rentch I sent them a message and will call Danny now. So you know we still have about $61,000 left between BI and Chowchilla.
ok got it. Will pause ACTS Chow and resume Sandy. Thanks @Andy Rogers
@Cameron Rentch Just spoke with Danny. They understand that there will still be some overage on the Burth Injury but he is telling me they are way behind and he needs to really look at the cases. It is not like Mass Tort, as you know, so he wants to make sure they are getting value.
Can we slow it down and he will connect with me early next week to determine if they want to move forward?
I know it is not ideal but with Doug out of the picture for the past month or so he is just swamped.
Side note, he was very appreciative of us.
@Cameron Rentch Here is a link to the campaign updates. They are as of this morning. • Please see the notes by certain campaigns. • Everyone on MD has confirmed updated criteria. • The ones highlighted in yellow we need to watch as they are close to full. ◦ Ghozland does not have more funds right now for AFFF ◦ Based on our conversation on Friday we need to watch the Birth Injury as it looks like it is right there ◦ I would like you to please confirm you see the Asim campaign https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1olr5Cat5AyRl9P_WcLd2YcMOSGxzr1fFYdpDVvC5iZM/edit?usp=sharing
@Cameron Rentch moving this back to the front of your Slack
@Cameron Rentch I see that Napoli Shkolnik/AFK is doing PFAS at $1,500 a piece. Can I sell this?
@Andy Rogers AFFF took a crap, all campaigns stopped converting. Working on it with team.
Napoli/AFK criteria is VERY LOOSE, so it would need to be exactly what their criteria is, and I don't think anyone would take such a loose criteria
@Andy Rogers please keep this "quiet" for now
https://shieldjusticewatch.com/new-jersey-juvenile-detention-abuse-lawsuits/
testing for Sean's firm small budget will let you know how it looks
@Andy Rogers did you ever get final Sbaiti rporting and send? I think we are getting close on budget
I sent it to you once I had it. I thought you were sending.
I can get it updated as of now if you’d like
@Cameron Rentch I am jumping on a zoom with Patsy and John Ray, this could be really good. I will do that after the call
@Andy Rogers need to talk with you this am re Crump and the Torticity deal. We are not charging Jarret a "cost per contract" - this is a test that we are going to be super thin on.
I am personally going to manage the traffic/lead gen on this for facebook and tik tok. We will layer in GLS and Ryan's google buyer can manage this piece.
We are going to run geo targeted branded ads.
We are going to test this, no defined cost or margin. Talk more later, then I will send details on the plan which I will send to Jon and Jarret later today
@Andy Rogers please get Patsy added into Slack so we can all communicate. Make sure she knows to load on her phone as well. Please do not add her into any channels yet we can do so later
@Cameron Rentch Sounds good. I just got off a call with Tighe for an hour for next week. Ill explain later. Jumping on a call right now but available throughout the day when you need me.
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@Andy Rogers please call Asim asap, budget super close. Sned him reporting asap, cc me. play the "good cop" and tell him you can get approved to continue. Try to see if he can do 500K, as a way to "make me feel good"
@Cameron Rentch please see attached for the $500,000 AFFF campaign for Sandy Van with ELG. Attached are the required documents.
Please send contracts to: afffintake@elglaw.com and sandra@vanlawfirm.com
Estimated delivery of 160 - 175
@Andy Rogers doesnt sandy have a "mass tort" distro email?
@Cameron Rentch Sandy told me to send them to Sandra@vanlawfirm.com but now said hold on. She is getting right back to me
@Cameron Rentch please add Masstorts@vanlawfirm.com to the distribution list
@Cameron Rentch Updates:
Asim: Was stand offish but worked through it. Will give me answer Friday afternoon on if we will continue
Tighe: Wants panel to discuss the aftermath of Michael Watts, wants me to discuss my experience with lead generation. Discuss what can be done to help regulate this space. Wants to meet with me additionally to discuss how we could potentially “unionize” the marketing space
Saddleback: Craig is so afraid to not capitulate to them. I will make sure everything is spelled out correctly on invoice and speak with them again to ensure
What else: I need Contractor agreement tomorrow for Ashley. If you can please reach out to Greg and Craig and let them know to set up something for next week. Had a great week with Patsy and others in the office. Abe brought up to me some of his issues with Ryan and I completely know how to handle them. We discussed, he agreed. Easy peasy
Love your brother, but love his brother more! Super excited, hope you have a great time in Big Bear. I am in the air tomorrow from 10am until 2pm Pacific.
*Thread Reply:* @Andy Rogers thanks will call you this am. FYI the Atlas call is at 1pst. They sent the invite. Don’t stress can update you after the call. It’s been hard to get a time that they and BG could make work.
Be careful very careful with Tige. They are in a tough space I want to steer clear of “unionizing” the space and keep very guarded from him. I would prefer we don’t bring up the Michael watts event from MTMP but rather focus on the best practices.
*Thread Reply:* Talk soon and thank you!
Suggest you keep on Kevin for the agreement but I need to review it before it’s sent to make sure I see if early please.
Also once approved needs to be sent e sign from Nsay or Shellie.
@Cameron Rentch URGENT ‼️
please see email from Kevin. Need response ASAP from you.
@Andy Rogers can you please get with Latoya and send me a copy of the new landing page for review?
@Andy Rogers for future - dont document things like this - She was pitched by almost every vendor at NTL and we wanted to move quickly to keep her away from Broughton and/or anyone else.
this is better done verbally, and then make a formal introduction to her, with her title.
these are the kind of emails that WILL get copied and pasted, or forwarded and WILL cause problems.
I understand that. I didnt think that saying we wanted to move quickly was inappropriate. However I understand
@Cameron Rentch please seee the language I added into the Invoice channel and confirm the language. I will do that now before just adding
@Cameron Rentch Can you please copy me on your email to Debbie with the language so I can explain it?
my note to them has nothing to do with the invoicing it is simply accounting message not relevant. ask @Debbie to post the invoice for you to see in channel
@Cameron Rentch Real quick, I am on with Brent Carson. Would we be willing to take $100k on MD from him? I told him no, but I said I would ask
@Andy Rogers tell him we will need to evaluate the budgets overalll. We can try but need a bit of time
@Cameron Rentch Had a quick call with the team and brought Jon Wright in to the zoom.
Updates: Jon reached out internally and we got feedback. Everyone is good to go with the site once we add a news real which was requested by Jarrett.
I tested the phone numbers and then spoke with Brett and Tony. I have tested again and they are answering right away.
I tested the form and found that they had the same question asked twice. I have had that resolved and fixed.
Once Latoya makes the changes she is going to test the forms and make sure they go to the correct places internally and confirm for me that is completed.
Once they are completed we will publish.
@Cameron Rentch please let me know if you have any further questions or needs
@Andy Rogers thanks you may want to CONFIRM with Jarret to wait until after the opress release to go live. He did not want it live until after the press release is what he told me
@Cameron Rentch REVIEW WHEN YOU CAN PLZ, it can be later I am putting these here in Slack so you can save it and if you just dont have time to talk please just respond with what you can. I know a couple of them I am being a pest on, however I need to provide some sort of answer as we told them last week we would start. Again, I KNOW you are busy.
Items to discuss:
• Spoke with Copper CRM that is built by Google and recommended by your brother. I got a bid. it is very reasonable, do you want to be a part of this or should I do my due diligence and proceed? • Babin campaign • Ghozland & FLG MD Juv Hall Campaign • Your conversations with Craig and Greg, need to schedule them • Review my conversation with David Moynahan prior to my panel on Thursday morning • Did you review the Podcast as they are asking to run it • Suboxone & Ozempic - Are you ready for me to push these • HUGE HUGE interest in Round Up right now. Do we want to play ball? • Press release announcing Patsy • Thoughts on an Inbound piece of the call center to answer calls for PI firms • I know I had something else but I cant recall. I will add it if needed later Again, thank you
@Cameron Rentch if you don’t have time this morning can you please give some answers and we can talk whenever.
• Spoke with Copper CRM that is built by Google and recommended by your brother. I got a bid. it is very reasonable, do you want to be a part of this or should I do my due diligence and proceed? I dont need to be involved. Make sure you please use it, if you dont cancel it • Babin campaign - starting this week • Ghozland & FLG MD Juv Hall Campaign - starting this week • Your conversations with Craig and Greg, need to schedule them - still need final agreements from Kevin, follow up with him please. Need the exact details of what we are proposing CLEARLY spelled out in the schedule. have him add to each of their • Review my conversation with David Moynahan prior to my panel on Thursday morning - chat today time TBD • Did you review the Podcast as they are asking to run it - have not been able to yet, resend me link please • Suboxone & Ozempic - Are you ready for me to push these - we have not run Suboxone yet, Ozempic we can take some orders • HUGE HUGE interest in Round Up right now. Do we want to play ball? - not really, still think it is going to suck. See how saddlerock goes • Press release announcing Patsy - send me draft • Thoughts on an Inbound piece of the call center to answer calls for PI firms - if they can ever have a day without multiple fails, def not ready for this yet. All kinds of problems and needs more time.
Thank you Cameron! Have a great day. Talk later. @Cameron Rentch
@Andy Rogers sent test intake to Jennifer re Babin. Got an "out of office" response. please follow up wiht her
@Cameron Rentch messaged her just now. I’ll let you know
@Andy Rogers highly suggest you send FRESH emails. That will get buried and she wont reply
FRESH emails, URGENT subject line. Also text message as she has an out of office reply
@Cameron Rentch URGENT Thomas is saying that the invoice from Ahield and TIP are going to the exact same beneficiary. He wants to send to a different account. Can we do that or do I tell him to send it all to one account this time?
@Cameron Rentch they need the invoice to match the account so TIP
Putting on top of your Slack
Approved @Debbie @Nsay Y @Andy Rogers
@Andy Rogers BG Ghozland Illinois Juv Hall abuse is live
@Andy Rogers I don't want this being circulated and talking with anyone about it that either does not already have an NDA signed, or that isnt already and existing funding or investing firm in other Juv abuse campaigns. DL is going to test, BG is looking into it (diligence). We should look to route all through these two litigating firms.
New Jersey Juv Hall Sexual Abuse 3 Primary Facilites • New Jersey Training School (Monroe Township) • Juvenile Medium Security Facility (JMSF) • The Female Secure Care and Intake Facility Key Factors: • Known abuse documented • State run facilities • Good SOL (current age up to 55 years old or within 7 years of becoming aware that the abuse occurred has caused them harm • NJ Governor has vowed to close the detention centers (article below) Articles: https://whyy.org/articles/new-jersey-youth-detention-sex-abuse/#:~:text=The%20lawsuit%20alleges%20virtually%20unchecked,Training%20School%20in%20Monroe%20Township
@Cameron Rentch I am assuming you are good with me chatting with Sandy
I let her know there were some possibilities but didn’t go into details. All good w Sandy
ALERT @Cameron Rentch ALERT Rochen is at 275 of 300 on AFFF
Okay just staying on top as you ask.
By the way Selby reached out to me about Zach Mosley and was all good
@Cameron Rentch just got off call with someone from NY confirming account and wiring info for Stoughton. We should get the $500k today
Reminder, please tell them to send you the fed ref number after they send the wire
@Cameron Rentch Please click the link to an updated Google Sheet on our open campaigns. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ag2thmKMUXhAhKpGya6mlegw64p5Ovt/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103735641617721437324&rtpof=true&sd=true
Let me know if you have any questions
@Andy Rogers FYI giving you update seeing massive spikes in cost for MD Juv, we have to adjust all customer costs to 6500-7k effective Feb 1. I have already adjusted
I have already adjusted customers costs and should be reflected in dashbaords. If it comes back down we will adjust down again. Alot of people fishing now
@Andy Rogers Ozempic
• PC must have used Ozempic or Wegovy (no minimum amount of use required yet – but may later require at least 30 or 60 days use) • If the client took Munjaro or Rybelsis, or Zepbound, this does not qualify. • PC must have taken a drug they purchased from a pharmacy, not from a compounding pharmacy. ◦ Question to ask clients: “Did your medication come premixed in a pen, or did you have to mix or measure it yourself? In other words, did you have to fill the syringe with the medication on your own?” If the client had to mix or measure it on their own, decline. Severity (Must have one of the following 3 below) PC must have been Hospitalized or Emergency room visit(s) for vomiting and/or gastric injuries and/or intestinal bowel blockage issues OR PC must have seen a Gastroenterologist and has been diagnosed with gastroparesis, stomach paralysis or another possibly related gastric injury or disorder OR has been diagnosed with intestinal blockage or bowel blockage or ileu OR PC must have undergone gastric bypass surgery or a colectomy surgery (or another intestinal surgery) Proximity PC must have suffered one of the severe events above WHILE still taking the medication or within 6 months of stopping the medication Diagnosis 2017 or after (Drugs came on market 2017)
*Thread Reply:* @Cameron Rentch can you provide me with pricing on these?
@Cameron Rentch Would we want to do a campaign on CL for mid $4k range if they took all Teir 1 - 6 ? But they want some sort of assurances of 70%+ being tier 1-3?
@Cameron Rentch Hey Cameron, so below is the Paragard criteria that this firm is using. According to Patsy they were sourcing these via Social for like $1,900 per signed. I said I believe we would be much higher than that but will check.
This is the criteria/intake dialogue provided by Erin Copeland. She is leading this litigation. • In what state do you currently reside? Reject if TX, MI, TN, KY and LA • Have you ever had a ParaGard IUD implanted? (Must be YES) Reject if no • What date did you have the original ParaGard IUD implanted (approximate year is fine)? Reject if before 2012 • Is your IUD a Copper IUD or Hormonal IUD? Reject if hormonal • Has the Paragard IUD been removed by a health care provider? Reject if no • When the Paragard IUD was removed, did the IUD ever break (either during any attempt to remove it OR at any time)? Reject if no • In what state were you residing at the time of the in-office removal procedure? Reject if TX, MI, TN, KY and LA • Did you have any follow up procedures (one or more) to remove the remaining piece of your Paragard IUD? If so, what was(were) the name(s) of the procedure(s)? Reject if no • In addition to breaking, which of the following did you experience? (The IUD migrated. The doctor was unable to locate or remove the IUD. The IUD was embedded. None.) • Are you currently represented by an attorney for ParaGard IUD implant? Reject if yes • Are you currently speaking with another attorney about your Paragard claim? • If you are not the injured party, are you legally authorized to sign on behalf of the injured party? (POA, legal guardian, etc) Must have a court issued document to prove representation.
@Cameron Rentch Please see the message I send you, also can I get prices on Ozempic
also paragard we can test it, not confident though. You should compare against Luff criteria, becuase that was not good and we shut it down
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT ALERT: I will send you an update on ALL campaigns shortly. In the mean time please shut off Sandy Van ILL and move those elsewhere.
@Andy Rogers tomorrow am we need to do the following:
- discuss messaging/convo with BG and counsel firms regarding MI and IL (note all will increase costs)
- A. IL - we should adjust to all cases currently in SOL (under 40, so 39+7 months - same as CA) B. MI - adjust to all new signed to be currently in SOL ( in MI childhood sexual abuse victims now have until their 28th birthday to sue for damages, or three years after discovering injuries caused by criminal sexual conduct, whichever occurs later. (We need to discuss with Jon I have ideas)
- I need recap of what we are doing with balance of funds from Foreman/Thomas for planning. We may want to suggest them moving some of MI to NJ as well.
@Cameron Rentch sounds good! I am on cloud 9 today as I had some great calls.
@Cameron Rentch Contractor Agreement proposals for Greg & Craig
@Cameron Rentch attached is a Press Release I would like to post for announcing Patsy
@Andy Rogers reads pretty good! I am ok with this^
@Cameron Rentch Can you talk for a quick minute after this?
@Andy Rogers how much budget does Sandy have left in IL and MI abuse?
@Andy Rogers what are we doing with the additional 385K we got from Ted/Ron? Please send me all details
It’s more than that and I sent it to you a few weeks ago. I’ll send you again shortly on my way home
@Cameron Rentch I just sent the following to Sandy. I want you to be aware of the fact that while the AFFF w/BG and the CA Juv Hall w/ACTS are closed we technically have around $90,000 left as we shut those down before they went over.
Please see the update below as to where we are at with each of your active companies: • Chowchilla w/ACTS: Total Budget $800,000 – Budget Remaining: $361,110 – Total Delivery: 74 • Maryland w/BG: Total Budget $1,500,000 – Budget Remaining: $558,839 – Total Delivery: 235 • Michigan w/BG: Total Budget $1,500,000 – Budget Remaining: $63,698 – Total Delivery: 546 • AFFF w/ELG : Total Budget $500,000 – Budget Remaining: $500,000 – Total Delivery: Will start this week Completed: • CA Juv Hall w/ACTS: Total Budget $1,300,000 – Budget Remaining: Closed – Total Delivery: 282 • Illinois w/BG: Total Budget $1,000,000 – Budget Remaining: Closed – Total Delivery: 383 • AFFF w/BG: Total Budget $1,125,000 – Budget Remaining: Closed – Total Delivery: 447 • AFFF w/Nations : Total Budget $2,000,000 – Budget Remaining: Closed – Total Delivery: 801
@Cameron Rentch So you will recall we split Ted Foreman’s last $500,000 into to payments. One was for $375,000 and the other was for $125,000 which went to the TIP account.
It was split as follows: • $250,000 total for Maryland Sex Abuse to BG • $150,000 total for Chowchilla Sex Abuse to ACTS • $100,000 total for Illinois Sex Abuse to BG Please let me know if you have any questions. I have made them aware of the qualifiers and the uptick in costs
Drive safely to Mammoth
@Andy Rogers need retainers for all above-^^^
@Cameron Rentch Larry Jones is complete on Meso and I cannot get a commitment to renew. So please turn him off
@Cameron Rentch Meirowitz is at 75% on their AFFF and MD Juv Hall. I will be speaking with them this afternoon about their plans
@Cameron Rentch Jus spoke with Meirowitz. They are not going to add more to the AFFF but will let me know how much more on the MD.
Ok @Andy Rogers what is remaining budget
@Cameron Rentch AFFF for Meirowitz they have $68,055 of their budget remaining. Started with $300,000
thanks I am going to slow them down let it trickle in.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT: I just realized that Bowersox has not had an AFFF lead come in since October and still has $100,000 left in the account. I can get more money if we can start him back up. Unless I am missing something
@Cameron Rentch Alert… plz confirm you did tell Brent Carson you would allow him to buy in now on MD Juv Hall with BG…. thank you
@Cameron Rentch Jerry Parker wants to run a test on CooperSurgical I.V.F. Liquid. I met with Jason S. Goldstein who would be running this for Jerry and will also be at MTMP and excited to meet you.
This is happening in 32 states right now. I have asked him to send me ALL of the details so that you can dig into it. I have explained that after you have reviewed you will be able to let us know what you would look for with respect to what is needed for a test. I also confirmed that we would want to discuss midway through the test what it looks like to continue, meaning we cannot let the campaign pause if you want to continue.
He is supposed to send me more details later today but for the meantime: • https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/health/cooper-surgical-ivf-embryos-lawsuits.html?unlocked_article_code=1.W00.hkAs.rMvstfDp8BXw • https://www.yourlawyer.com/coopersurgical-i-v-f-liquid-destroyed-embryo-lawsuit-lawyers/
@Andy Rogers got it. Not familiar with it. What is test budget? Can you please forward criteria when you can?
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Please move a total of $175,000 for Sandy Van. $75,000 from Sandy Van Maryland which currently has a balance of $558,000 to a new Human Trafficking campaign to partner with Hilary Nappi and $100,000 from Chowchilla which has a balance of $361,000
They want a maximum of 75 contracts. I have quoted a price range between $2,000 and $2,300
The signed contract will be going to HACH ROSE SCHIRRIPA & CHEVERIE LLP
See attached documents and also please send all documents to the following emails:
hnappi@hrsclaw.com ffarrell@hrsclaw.com masstorts@vanlawfim.com ffarrell@hrsclaw.com IWeiner@hrsclaw.com
@Cameron Rentch Here are the answers you were looking for on the Jerry Parker test.
They asked if you have any way of 100% guessing what the costs might come in at. And when I asked about initial budget they once again deferred to me asking what we suggest. So if you have a recommendation I will start that dialog right away
Qualifications/question
(1) US citizen (2) underwent IVF in last 4-6 months (3) received letter from fertility center that recall liquid was utilized in 1 or more embryos (4) 1 or more embryos failed to mature
Please ask 1) ask how old both mom and dad are 2) Ask if IVF treatment occurred in home state . If not, what state? 3) what clinic did IVF process take place at.
@Andy Rogers I will review and see if I can find any comparable prior torts
@Cameron Rentch thanks. Also let me know if we have time to connect before I speak on Thursday
@Cameron Rentch I have been with Jason from Parker’s office all weekend and last night at dinner he told me that based on what he heard me say they are fired up to work with us. If you can send me anything yo get them going today would be amazing
@Andy Rogers I will try for today but will be late afternoon/early evening
@Cameron Rentch I will tell him tomorrow if that’s better.
@Andy Rogers Quick view: 3 recalled liquid lots so far Article states that if clinics used 1/2 of the liquids it could impact more than 20,000 people Suggest 100K test Targeting couples and females, 30+ We would need to know exact criteria for viable case We would need retainer docs We can have ads, landing pages and intake ready within 7 days from them providing required docs and clear intake criteria API's are a bit backlogged, so would like to start manual delivery, then backfill API
@Andy Rogers I need drop box details for Hilary firm, scheduling trafficking for tmrw
@Cameron Rentch Dropbox for Hilary:
@Cameron Rentch ALERT! We received $300,000 from Ron Markarem for AFFF. It is the same as his previous campaign BG.
Delivery is expected 93-95
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT last week when I told you Meirowitz was not renewing and they were at 95 of 106 I thought you said they would just dribble in. They are now over. Can we please get that turned off? I am sure I can get the extra overage of around $25,000 but please turn that off. Maybe switch to Makarem as they are both with BG?
I told Intake to pause so they probably screwed up again
traffick has been paused for over a week
Well on a good note the last two days were amazing. I should start seeing some fruits real quick plus a big one coming up. I’ll explain later
@Cameron Rentch Camp lejuine… Are we able to still get that in volume for around $7,00 - $7,500 Tier 2 and $9,500+ for EO?
Also, I cannot find where I wrote it down last night, but what is your availability for Thursday and/or Friday for two calls?
@Andy Rogers let's chat shortly on lejeuen. I will explain but the answer is we are going to be "sold out"
@Cameron Rentch I have been doing research on the New York Detention Centers as you requested. Please view this document when you have a moment and confirm I am getting you what you want/need
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19vMpedbgTs3PQXCuJ2S6_wf92d6Yx4FYtWtOXnJ5UnI/edit?usp=sharing
I would like to chat with Hilary about this once you have some thoughts
@Cameron Rentch Can we sign this with Parker Waichmen?
@Andy Rogers the law firm, needs to send it to us in a word doc for review. very basic. The only thing I see on the surface is that the law firm needs to be responsible for ensuring they are in compliance with all of their state bar requirements.
Really aside from that one line getting added, or just referenced stating that they understand they are required to follow their own bar regulations it’s fine
thanks, I am on this Webinar on HT right now
@Cameron Rentch Here it is in word form them
@Andy Rogers we would like them to add a couple of short paragraphs see attached
@Cameron Rentch Here are the latest back from Saddle Rock. They want us to sign these. From what I can see they have made all of the changes we asked for but for the one about insurance. They added that back in and have said that we need to provide proof of insurance or it is a no go for them. Just letting you know.
@Andy Rogers this looks good to me: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19vMpedbgTs3PQXCuJ2S6_wf92d6Yx4FYtWtOXnJ5UnI/edit I have no Idea what we will generate or how much it is picked over but seems worth a shot if the SOL is going to change
@Andy Rogers you may have sent, however I can't locate? Can you please post the intake and retainer docs for Parker Waichman IVF campaign?
also @Andy Rogers have Parker send us a copy of their intake questionairre that they use
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT ALERT
Please see the attached for Ted Forman on his Illinois and MD retainers.
send to: masstortintake@baileyglasser.com ted@formanlawoffices.com
@Andy Rogers FYI
https://shieldjusticewatch.com/liquid-destroyed-embryo-lawsuits/
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT - We told Michael two weeks ago that we would start this. Can you please confirm that it has
@Cameron Rentch I think I missed something. I was trying to say that we told Ghozland we were starting his MD Juv hall and it doesn’t look like we have.
@Cameron Rentch Good morning, Here is what has budget available that isn’t currently open and/or set up yet:
BG/Bowersox - AFFF ($175,000 remaining) Needs to be re-started BG/Ghozland - MD Juv hall ($300,000) Campaign not set up yet ROI Tactical Marketing - AFFF ($200,000) Campaign not set up yet BG/Walsh - IL Juv Hall ($200,000) Campaign not set up yet Van/ACTS - CA Juv Hall ($100,450) Campaign closed on 12/27/23 Forman - MD Juv Hall ($250,000) Campaign not set up yet Forman - IL Juv Hall ($100,000) Campaign not set up yet Forman - Chowchilla ($150,000) Campaign not set up yet BG/Loghmana - AFFF ($48,640) Needs to be re-started
@Cameron Rentch Connected with Dan and he has now given me the okay on the Saddle Rock deal. I forwarded it to you. Are you okay with. me doing the docuSign or should I have it sent to you? Thanks
@Cameron Rentch
• Jeffrey Bowersox - $250,000 - PA Juv Hall - 3-21 • Brad Morris - $100,000 - AFFF - 3-18 • AWKO. - $200,000 - CPAP - 3-21 • AWKO. - $150,000 - Sex Abuse - In March • Cochran - $100,000 - Ozempic - In March • BWM - $50,000 - Gaming Addiction - In March • O’Mara - $150,000 - PFAS - In March • Berkowitz - $50,000 - AFFF - In March • Carson - $200,000 - AFFF - 3/21 • Aaron - $150,000 - AFFF - In March • Keith Jackson - $100,000 - AFFF - In March • Walsh - $100,000 - Ozempic - In March • Walsh - $200,000 - Il Juv - 3-18 • Parker - $50,000 - Fertility Test • Mattar - $200,000 - AFFF - In March • Wagstaff - $200,000 - NEC - In March Total of $2,250,000 to close Total of $875,000 already in an booked
There are alot of other things in the pipeline however these have told us yes.
Wagstaff criteria. Says they are ready to make a move right now
@Andy Rogers
I need to see and understand their Exact and precise “curing” requirements, intake requirements, copies of retainer packets how they must be completed, signed, dated, noted, ordered.
What they consider “reasons for returns”
FYI I am going in about 2500 higher becuase they have very stringent requirements.
Please get asap
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT - Have an incredible birthday!
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT:
Sandy Van - MI Juv Hal 562/566 Sbaiti - we have $102,000 left on CL
@Cameron Rentch Saddle Rock replied they are okay with the compliance manual not being added but they want us to play the recording of their attorney. Is that something we can/will do? The are all over me to get this resolved now if we can
He is saying that we can drop off the call and send it to the recodring of Tom Young. He said has never been an issue with anyone. Just a warm transfer at the end to the recording.
@Andy Rogers idk thats extra work that we do not normally do, they are my least prioroty at the moment will deal wiht it in couple days
I love you and agree with you!
Side Note, we are good to go on the 29th in Vegas. He is flying in with me
@Cameron Rentch please make sure you have started Forman on MD this week
I need retainers for all Forman campaigns still? Did you send? Also we dont have enough volume to have all firms on so ill have to pause others temporarily
FYI these are ready and looking good - when can we get a green light from PW?
SL IVF-TB-24179-FB-CP-https://f.io/rGAh1mwO SL IVF-TB-24179-FB-JA-https://f.io/81m6b6kJ SL IVF-TB-24179-FB-ML-https://f.io/C8sR0YW6
SL IVF-TB-24179-FB-CP-CLEAN-https://f.io/-qvPlWjV SL IVF-TB-24179-FB-JA-CLEAN-https://f.io/IzfBk2TF SL IVF-TB-24179-FB-ML-CLEAN-https://f.io/zLzjvBLm
Liquid destroyed embryo lawsuit https://shieldjusticewatch.com/liquid-destroyed-embryo-lawsuits/ https://shieldjusticeteam.com/liquid-destroyed-embryo-claims/
@Cameron Rentch I sent these to you last Monday. I understand that means moving things around but if you can at least get them a few MD that will help.
@Andy Rogers see post above I need to know status on parker
@Cameron Rentch I see it, I have spoken with Jerry but his gal is cock blocking this. Now he wants me to find a common ground with her.
what common ground is there??? ridiculous
@Cameron Rentch I sent you a text. Can you do a call around 10am tomorrow with Jonathan from Wagstaff on NEC?
Okay, I can do it without, I just know you wanted to be involved with them before you say pull the trigger given their past history. I am also fine saying pass if it is too much given all of your other commitments
@Cameron Rentch Just had a great conversation with Dan and Sam about Juv Hall. Then spoke with Todd and they are talking tomorrow. Sounds like we are gonna get them in on Ill and PA
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT ALERT:
Van - MI Juv Hall 564/565 done Makarem - AFFF 125/160 - 75% Van/ACTS - Chow is 102/120 - 85% Van - Human Trafficking 62/76 - 80%
@Cameron Rentch Cameron,
Our next steps with Carter are pretty straight forward. He would like to know the following:
• Approximate case costs, • volume, • cases we are running. Additionally, he and I had a quick conversation, and he would like to know if we could let him know what we suggest.
He is interested in: • Paraquat • NEC • Sex Abuse • Round Up • Camp Lejuine & • Possibly AFFF/PFAS
please be carefult with language(this can show in discovery)
Approximate ranges/KPI for media + intake for acquisution costs
Campaigns for types of cases we are running
I understand, I just copied and pasted what he wrote. I am NOT saying it like this at all. But I do understand what you are saying
@Cameron Rentch From Justin
This was the last criteria we ran for NEC
ACCEPT: -Premature babies, born earlier than 36 weeks and/or -Low birth weight babies (Less than 5 lbs 8oz) -Ingested Enfamil or Similac and -Diagnosed with NEC
DECLINE: -Babies born later than 36 weeks or -No ingestion of Enfamil or Similac or -No diagnosis of NEC
On the fence on Ozempic. Would like to know about what your campaigns have garnered.
@Andy Rogers I need a Chowchilla retainer for Foreman w ACTS, please get for me thank you
@Andy Rogers Intake cant locate these, please send ASAP
need retainers for MD - BG/Ghozland & IL - BG/Walsh.
@Cameron Rentch this is used for both MD and Illinois. This is Ghozland’s.
@Andy Rogers please ipen the BG GLF MD retainer - last 8 pages are about camp lejeune. Please ask Jon to clean up and resend thank you
I am with him and he will fix it and send it to me to resend ASAP
@Andy Rogers some insights into costs with various campaigns:
ELG and BG and Napoli AFFF current criteria Last 20 days we need to raise to 4k-4100/per for all ELG we need to raise to 4250-4500/per for all BG we need to raise for to 3800-4000/per Napoli I am working to try bringing these down, but if I cant in the next week we need to get these adjusted. We are losing money last two weeks.
IL Juv Abuse We need to raise to 4000-4250/per We are losing money last two weeks
MI Juv Abuse We need to raise to 3800-4000/per We are losing money last two weeks
@Cameron Rentch okay, I saw that sale you made with Nations and had 2900 per so I assumed we were coming down on price. Thanks for the update. I’ll probably need to talk to everyone tomorrow just sold before we start their campaigns as these prices are a bit higher. But can’t lose money :-)
his criteria is super light, lighter than Napli
Nations has no latecy requirements or minimal exposures
@Andy Rogers how much $ did Sbaiti provide?
we are at 831K total not including today(2 more signed this am, so 852,000 total)
@Cameron Rentch give me a minute. It’s either $900,000 or $1,000,000
@Cameron Rentch he has sent a total of $900,000 so he has $69,000 remaining
@Andy Rogers look above should be 48k remaining.
Yes sorry not counting today. Do you want me to try and get more money on this or are we done with them? @Cameron Rentch
@Cameron Rentch do you have an issue with us giving Patsy a credit card? She has been using her own and Al says he is waiting on you
No @Andy Rogers we are done. Tell him we are just shutting it down.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT Ghozland MD Juv Abuse. He paid this last year and we still have NOT started it
• Client to pre-pay invoice with $25,000 for initial test • Shield Legal LLC follows ABA guidelines for rules of lawyer advertising. • Shield Legal & Tort Intake Professionals shall indemnify client from any and all TCPA violations stemming from the actions of Shield Legal, Tort Intake Professionals or any of its employees, assigns, agents or contractors @Cameron Rentch are you okay with this language for Jerry Parker?
@Cameron Rentch I got this today so I am sharing with you for context
@Cameron Rentch I know you are still in bed, at least I hope so. Anyhow I am on the plane with Zach. He has prepared a bunch of stuff to go over with us.
Great call last night!
@Andy Rogers under radar for now we can see if anyone wants to test
Vyaire Medical AirLife Manual Resuscitators https://shieldjusticewatch.com/vyaire-medical-airlife-manual-resuscitators-lawsuits/
Synovo Hip Implants https://shieldjusticeteam.com/synovo-hip-implants-claims/
@Andy Rogers send me list of campaigns that you need me to review.
start here, I will add the new channels later
@Cameron Rentch okay I am grabbing a coffee right now and will send as soon as I am back up.
@Cameron Rentch Please start the AFFF Campaign for Keith Jackson as soon as we can. $175,000 AFFF they are keeping the cases, using BG criteria. KPI - $3,500 - $3,700 I will raise the price if needed after MTMP
Email packets to: kj@rileyjacksonlaw.com and marymalea@rileyjacksonlaw.com
@Cameron Rentch Please start the Ill Juv Hall Campaign for FYF Law with Bailey Glasser for $150,000
Emails go to: masstortintake@baileyglasser.com and dina@fyflaw.com
@Cameron Rentch Please restart the AFFF campaign for Aaron/Carson with ELG. it is for $200,000 for AFFF. KPI is $3,400 - $3,700 and we will raise pricing after MTMP if needed.
All documentation and set up is the exact same as the previous AFFF campaign they ran with him
@Cameron Rentch Please start a $90,000 AFFF campaign for Flanagan going to BG. This is the one that we had to give a credit because of the MD Juv Hall. We are targeting a KPI of $3,500 - $3,7000 again I will communicate price changes after MTMP if needed.
Please email packets to: masstortintake@baileyglasser.com and to michael@windycityinjury.com
@Cameron Rentch Please set up a $75,000 Ozempic campaign for Walsh Law. The targeted KPI was to hit between $1,600 - $1,800 if we can but stay under $2,000 otherwise discuss with firm.
Wire is being sent this afternoon
All intakes are sent to intake@alexwalshlaw.com
Criteria attached as well as all other forms
got it all @Andy Rogers working on it all now!
@Andy Rogers check on Laba Forman Chowchilla please
@Andy Rogers check email there are problems with ome retainers that Jon sent me.
@Cameron Rentch Having shitity coverage on this flight. But I am looking now.
With Forman I show 14 contracts. Their dashboard is showing a price point of $4,000 per. When I look at the average Revenue for this month I see $4300 with the revenue being as low as $3,500 lately.
They put in $150,000 so even if we use an average of $4,500 that means we would deliver 33 so 19 left.
@Cameron Rentch I just messaged Jon on the documents for Ghozland. He replied that he is sick but getting on them NOW!
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALLERT There are two ACTS FOrman for CHowchilla, one has the name spelled wrong. Let me get updated numbers
@Andy Rogers you need to look at their cost on the actual days, not the bottom "average cost" they are trending close to 7k per at the moment for chowchilla
@Cameron Rentch You have showed me this before. Attached I show the Revenue per contract from the dashboard you told me to us
I am NOT looking at the average. I was just quoting it for you to see.
I dont know where youa re seeing that it is NOT accurate at all. I will resend you the correct ones.
@Andy Rogers that dash is completely off
https://lookerstudio.google.com/reporting/31f854d4-aa56-4291-9813-0cada9c274ad/page/ASVvC
This is the link to it
you are also missing a bunch of stuff. it is not accurate at all. there are two different accounts/campaigns for this and that dash is missing everything. I am getting ryn to update it.
@Cameron Rentch Sounds good. I knew something HAD to be wrong when I say the prices at $3,500 but then I thought maybe SuperCam (not Superman) found a sweetspot.
@Cameron Rentch Either way, if they are truly at $7,000 then we are at 15 x $7,000 = $105,000 against $150,000.
I know you know this, but we need to make sure that the Dashboard are not showing the wrong costs like they are for the clients. Thanks Cam
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT - Attached is the FYF - BG Retainer agreement. If we can start them asaP that would be great.
@Andy Rogers MI Juv abuse Bowersox is at cap. Are we continuing/renewing? Need to know asap ty
He is renewing for another $100,000, invoice going out now. @Cameron Rentch
@Andy Rogers repost the commmissions I do not see the thread.Reminder Debbie is not here any longer
I just did again. Please let me know if you see it.
I need to run out and get some clear liquids.
@Andy Rogers who else has money left on Chowchilla? Can’t keep getting these campaigns to stop immediately without it being planned.
@Cameron Rentch please swe the email 📧 forwarded you from Ron Markarem. He wants to stop his AFFF right away and move it to Ill. He is worried about what he heard about prostate cancer
@Cameron Rentch Please start Brad Morris with BG for AFFF. They have funded $150,000 with current criteria. KPI $3,250 - $3,500 which means 42 - 46 signed contracts. Documents attached.
Please send contracts to brad@bradmorrislawfirm.com, forrest@bradmorrislawfirm.com and masstortintake@baileyglasser.com also include
@Cameron Rentch Please see email about CL from Sean
@Andy Rogers Notes - need orders:
Hair Relaxer We can deliver steady Hair Relaxer for 3800-4000/per, diagnosed 2014 or after Ovarian, Uterine Endometrial cancer only. No revlon only usage.
Paraquat (LIMITED TIME ONLY) We can deliver steady Paraquat for 11500-13000/per, diagnosed Parkinsons no drift, direct applicator usage only
@Cameron Rentch I had a long talk with Keith this morning and his main issue is that they are too small to take the AFFF campaign we are running because he cannot get the non Cancer cases filed or worked up in time to be a part of any tolling agrrement. Long story short is they are trying to do everything in house and they cant. That said, they did speak with Broughton and they are offering them a campaign which I will show below. Can we do something like this?
Thank you for the call this morning. As we discussed, based upon some word on the street and the deadline in CMO 28 applying to AFFF cases, below are the parameters of the campaign we are interested in running for ingestion cases rather than AFFF cases:
- Must have consumed water known to have been contaminated with PFAS 1990 – present for a minimum of 6 consecutive months
- Contaminated water is known to have been present in 6 zip codes. You may have contacts who can identify those zip codes
- Diagnoses limited to testicular cancer, kidney cancer, thyroid cancer, thyroid disease, ulcerative colitis, and liver cancer
- No death cases
@Andy Rogers This seems narrow, there are far more known locations. Our campaign focuses on known military bases AND contaminated public water sources>
https://nationwidejusticeassistance.com/pfas-water-contamination-cases/ (Make sure you CLICK the expansion button to see locations)
Criteria
Exposed to contaminated water with high levels of PFAS on Military Bases OR public/private water sources OR Willing to undergo blood test to determine elevated levels of PFAS Diagnosed with the past 20 years OR diagnosed within 20 years after 1980
Diagnosed with:
• Kidney Cancer • Testicular Cancer • Thyroid Disease (including Hyperthyroidism, Hypothyroidism, Thyroiditis, Hashimoto’s Disease, Grave’s Disease, Goiter, and Thyroid Nodules) • Ulcerative Colitis • Preeclampsia (suffered by the pregnant mother) • Low Birthweight (5 pounds or less for the newborn) • Liver Cancer • Prostate Cancer (under 55) • Bladder Cancer • Pancreatic Cancer • Thyroid Cancer • Breast Cancer • “Blood Cancers” such as Leukemia, Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma, Hodgkin Lymphoma, Myeloma/Multiple Myeloma Of note, he is also mis-interpreting the CMO just fyi. Ive had 4 conversations with 4 different folks this week. But it is what it is...
Thank you. I will explain to him. Stay tuned
@Cameron Rentch If I could get them on this, what price point KPI can I use?
@Cameron Rentch Thanks…Totally different on Hair Relaxer, Also I reached out to Justin Witkin today about Hair Relaxer and his reply to me was:
Understood that your pricing is higher however, as we discussed, the real question is how much do compensable cases cost. That said, as Patsy knows, we’re currently bringing in cancer cases for between 1,500 – 2,000 per case. Even assuming that your cases were thoroughly vetted and yielded a higher percentage of compensable cases, its hard for me to justify adding at that cost.
We’ll keep the communication open and, if things change on our end, we’ll revisit.
Yeah not a problem. I personally don’t see a very fruitful path forward with them. I could be wrong but this is fairly typical with his responses
I agree. I am starting to see this with a lot of Patsy folks… perhaps on your conversation with her, you bring that up 🙂
More importantly, when are you flying out to Vegas?.
FU, is asking me what we are doing with the SOM website and all of that fun stuff. Do you have anything you need me to know
Same as said before.
- We will be premium sponsor of 100k
- We will deduct all of the work and any paid registration campaigns from the final amount we will pay.
Are we still wiling to manage the website or did we say they need to take that elsewhere
Nothing changes. I had Mark Hines clone the site and rebuilt in our standard stack. Much easier to manage.
Thanks, I will copy you on the email I send to Fu shortly
Please, reiterate to her, we want all requests to be funnel through one person only to manage the project from their side, and we will assign one person only to manage the input from individual.
@Cameron Rentch call me this morning when you can. 45 minutes with Cade and huge opportunity
@Andy Rogers give me a call at 1015am PST
@Cameron Rentch We told Ron Makarem that we would pause his AFFF campaign, last week as he is very frustrated. We kept running the campaign for whatever else was still in the works. That said he has about $30,000 left and wants that moved to Illinois or would like his money back. He is FINE with the repurposing.
Please confirm that we can do that and how you would like me to document it.
thats fine @Andy Rogers also, I saw his email. Again, "everyone" is saying their inventory is 15% prostate.
- who is "everyone" that is very ambiguous
- "everyone" whomever that is, is likely simply paying 2x or 3x more for all other case types OR someone is selling the prostate to others at lower cost to increase other case types to "everyone", again whomever that is
@Cameron Rentch Not sure if you saw my reply. I told him whoever is saying that is “full of shit”
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ‼️ I sent you a long text and apologies now but I need your feedback ASAP
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT - Can you please check on Brent Carson and Brad Morris AFFF campaigns. They should have been started a couple of weeks ago.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT:
Sam and Dan: Ill Juv Hall - $300,000 targeted KPI of 71 - 75 signatures Ted Forman: Ill Juv Hall - $100,000 targeted KPI of 25 signatures Ted Forman: MD Juv Hall - $250,000 targeted KPI of 38 - 42 signatures Flannigan: AFFF - $126,000 targeted KPI of 38 - 40 signatures
reminder get updated retainer for ELG/Carson-Aaron
BG Meirowitz & Wasserberg : Ill Juv Hall - $300,000 targeted KPI of 4100/per Ted Forman: Ill Juv Hall - $100,000 targeted KPI of 4100/per Ted Forman: MD Juv Hall - $250,000 targeted KPI of 6000/per Flannigan: AFFF - $126,000 targeted KPI of 3700/per
I think he might have said it is the same as MD
@Andy Rogers Flannigan is live AFFF. All others submitted to be set up. Just need MW retainer and good to go!
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Attached is the Ill Retainer for MW and BG
BTW, Greg Owen pointed out that Forman already has already has Ill started
FYI Sandy is crying like crazy. I think I have her calmed down
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT: Attached is the retainer agreement for ELG with Carson/Aaron
@Andy Rogers when you are submitting things like this: > We need to reject the following due to not meeting the criteria: > Santana-Romero because he had a blockage 4-5 yrs ago. See 3b of the criteria. > Figueroa due to reconstruction of her intestines. See 3c of the criteria. > Schmidt because she underwent bariatric surgery. See 3g of the criteria. > Please confirm these will be refunded.
- please send a slack to Ryan, Tony Luke only.
- provide the Intake ID, first and last name
- request Tony review the criteria and each intake to determine if they are viable for return.
- once reviewed, please then tag ryan, tony, luke and ask each of them to ensure the intakes are rejected and all dashboards and financials are updated to reflect.
- Brittany has nothing to do with this
@Cameron Rentch Ron Markarem AFFF should be off. I see that LeadsPedia is but the campaign is still open. Is there anyway to turn that off? Maybe move those to Bowersox or something as they are both with BG? He is having a fit that we turned it off two weeks agao and he is still getting signups
@Cameron Rentch Please move $100,000 from Jeff Bowersox MD Juv Hall to Michigan. Thank you!
@Cameron Rentch Attached are all of the documents from Carter. And they do NOT need a wet signature.
@Andy Rogers can you ask Carter what type of fallout marketing companies/other intake companies have encountered with the Affidavit being required in the original sign up packet? Typically we would do this type of document in a post acquistion call after more trust and confidence is built with the claimant. IE how many people decline to complete the process/sign up due to the affidavit requirement (many people are only willing to provide a partial SSN during the intake/retention call.
I am also going to see how may claimants in paraquat are willing o provide their SSN during the initial call.
@Cameron Rentch Intake criteria for Gaming Brain Disease
@Andy Rogers he is gonna slow this entire thing down. We need to "break out" the Meadow Law stuff, so we can can get intake, post acquisition and marketing moving asap
@Cameron Rentch yes I agree. I texted Rick and we should discuss this with Kyle at dinner
@Cameron Rentch Do you want me to connect Dan and Meadow or do you need to do it?
@Cameron Rentch rmeadow@meadowlawfirm.com - rgordon@meadowlawfirm.com - kyle@meadowlawfirm.com
@Andy Rogers please review this and give me feedback. Most important I want to make sure the "script" of this video is acceptable so that I can use toward other videos.
Example website: https://gaminglawgroup.com/ Example ad: https://f.io/izOxACAA
@Andy Rogers I cant find what I invited him to?
@Cameron Rentch I spoke with Rick and the team, they are spending more time looking at the ads but this is the initial feedback
• Need to eliminate Video Gaming and just use Gaming. • Has your child suffered time spent gaming? Resulting in what is now brain disease. • Change logo to the one they sent. • Games of today are different from those of the past. This is NOT about being addicted to playing, its about the brain damage it causes and the gaming manufactures knew it and designed it that way • It’s the micro transactions, is the fact that I can’t get away from it • Can’t pause it • Forced to stay on longer and longer causes the brain disease. • It’s not so much that they don’t want to leave the game, it’s because they CANT. • It is NOT that it is causing addiction it is causing brain disease.
@Andy Rogers I cant find what I invited him to?
@Cameron Rentch I was able to fix it by eliminating him from the one you forwarded and I forwarded him the correct one
note @Andy Rogers I dont have the logo they sent, get for me pls
@Cameron Rentch Ted Forman, they have not been getting anything on their MD or Illinois Juv Hall.
Here is the issue, he is having money issues and is asking because Thomas is all over him about that the money is sitting here doing nothing
We’ve been signing both. They are both live. Talk later I’ll check it out
@Andy Rogers need to chat with you. I get that Rick and team want to "rename" this to gaming brain disease, but every other firm/marketing source is using the "addiction angle", even Tina's intake reads "addiction". I am concerned that this could impact or possible "confuse" people and could ultimately impact costs as well. I get it but want to bring this up....
Do you want to talk with me, or do you want me to grab Rick for a call?
@Cameron Rentch
by example this is Broughtons website: https://get.theguardianlegalnetwork.com/video-game-addiction-gtm-step-1/
site updated with logo https://gaminglawgroup.com/
same. call you in 5 to chat about gaming, can we get Rick on a quick call?
how is this...Helping Families and Victims of Video Gaming Addiction, Brain Disease, Mental Health Disorders & Physical Conditions Seek Justice & Compensation.
@Andy Rogers Please get me exact and specific "criteria" for Video Game additiction. I have the "Intake" but I need a detailed document that outlines criteria for sign ups ASAP
@Cameron Rentch I will not be able to do that until I speak with Tina once I land. As soon as I do I’ll get it to you
thats fine @Andy Rogers also I am going to need Meadow Law/Levinson retainer, intake docs, hippa - please get those asap
@Cameron Rentch did you start Brent Carson AFFF last week with ELG?
@Cameron Rentch Please see the attached as these would be the qualifiers for VGA
@Andy Rogers you are going to need to really dumb this down for intake - we will fail here with this. Also, I see on intake documents that there are many other accepted case typoes and games? Help flush this out please - whatever "everyone" else has been running is what we should be...
I dont know what "microtransactions" even mean...
I will spend some time on this tonight and in the morning. I will dumb it down and make it simple
@Cameron Rentch Does this work better for you?
These four are for qualifying purposes: • How old were you/gamer when you started gaming? (Must be under 25 when they started) • Have you/gamer played a minimum of 70 hours since 2015? • What games did they play? (Must be a battle royale, open world or multi player with microtransactions) We can explain this and get a list. • Did you suffer from one or more of the following: ◦ HS or college dropout, ◦ suicide attempt, ◦ outpatient or inpatient counseling, ◦ sleep deprivation psychosis, ◦ private tutoring required to study. ◦ orthopedic injuries • Do you have? (only for informational purposes) ◦ ADHD, ◦ Autism, ◦ Oppositional Defiant Disorder
@Andy Rogers this is the same thing you sent me yesterday. it does not seem consistent with what others are taking?
It’s four questions. I am a little confused sorry. This is what others are doing.
• What games did they play? (Must be a battle royale, open world or multi player with microtransactions) We can explain this and get a list. This is not clear, we will FAIL^
have them re-read the intake. document they sent us
@Andy Rogers this is what we had from a prior post
Gaming Addiction Intake Criteria • Gamer must have experienced one or more of the following: o Diminished social interaction with family o Loss or lack of friends at school o Drop in grades o Lack of interest in other sports/hobbies o Inability to limit game playing time o Change in eating pattern due to game playing time o Gamer’s rage – losing or withdrawal of game prompts anger, throwing objects, punches walls/doors, yells, curses o Other: • Gamer must have been diagnosed or experienced one or more of the following: o Gamer’s thumb o Computer vision syndrome o Trigger finger o De Quervains’ Tenosynovitis o Changes in CT/MRI of the Brain o ADHD/ADD o Video gaming addiction o Carpal tunnel syndrome o Seizures o Tennis elbow o Neck sprain/herniation o Depression o Oppositional defiant disorder o Internet gaming disorder o Suicide attempt o High school dropout o Sleep deprivation psychosis o No diagnosed problems o College dropout • Gamer must have received one or more of the following treatments: o Individualized Educational Plan (IEP) o Out-patient counseling o Medication therapy o Inpatient treatment gaming addiction o Cognitive behavioral therapy for gaming addiction o Private tutoring o Other: o None of the above • Must not have hired an attorney for this matter • Provide Gamer’s email address • Provide Gamer’s gaming tag / Gamer’s alias • Must provide the game names, including version names (i.e.: Call of Duty Modern Warfare, not just Call of Duty) • Did Gamer sell loot (level, persona, badges, additional game content, etc.) for money on any of the following platforms: o CoinGecko o CoinCodex o Playerauctions.com o Skins Gambling o Esports Betting o Xbox Game Pass o Discord o None of the above o Other: • Must provide estimated hours spent playing each game • Must provide gaming consoles played (Xbox One, PlayStation, Apple Phone, etc.) • Must provide the gaming subscription: o Game Pass Ultimate o Game Pass Core o Xbox Live Gold o PlayStation Premium o PlayStation Extra o PlayStation Essential o EA Play o EA Play Pro o Apple Arcade o Google Play Pass o Amazon Prime Gaming o NVIDIA GeForce NOW o Amazon Luna o Roblox Premium o Ubisoft Classics o Ubisoft Premium o Fortnite Battlepass o Fortnite Crew Subscription o Other: • If gamer uses laptop, must provide manufacturer and approximate date of purchase o Did laptop come with 3 month free subscription to Xbox or EA (Electronic Arts)? • If gamer uses Virtual Reality headsets, gloves, etc., must provide name and approximate date of purchase
this is the CLEAR and concise detail that I need, what you sent is insufficient
I thought you wanted a dumbed down version, I misunderstood. @Cameron Rentch
@Cameron Rentch Sandy Van still has almost $350,000 in her AFFF with ELG. So you know she is willing to go up in cost if that helps us get more. She is currently at $3,500 for her last 15 or so. I told her it would be closer to $4,000 and she is okay.
@Cameron Rentch Are you okay with me taking a $500,000 order on AFFF? It will be going to Greg Cade and will be everything?
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT!
• Brad Morris: AFFF - 33 of 42 delivered - 9 remaining and I do NOT think he is going to renew •
@Cameron Rentch I sent this to you in email last night. Here is the approved Video Gaming Intake
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT
Flanagan AFFF 32/34 Morris AFFF 34/42 Levinson SJ AFFF 31/33
@Andy Rogers please let me know ASAP about Ozempic Walsh
@Cameron Rentch I have left her three messages but have dinner with her tonight so I will get it resolved
@Cameron Rentch Cam after a long conversation with Mark DiCello, Todd and Bailey Glasser are very interested in acquiring New Jersey Juv Hall cases. Here are my questions:
• Can we support a 1 or 2 million dollar campaign for them? • What can we estimate the cost per to be? • How quickly or at what cadence should they expect? Thank you!
@Andy Rogers yes, 1mil, (500K start). Slower at the moment 10-20/week, average 5500-6000/per
@Andy Rogers send this to everyone
Checklist - items needed.
Documents (Adobe/PDF) • Retainer agreement • Hippa/Hitech • Any additional documents the firm requires in the packet Distribution of signed contracts • List of people to send the completed intake/retainer packets to (email addresses) • Contacts/technical staff for API integrations Email address and phone number for any attorney reviews/escalations?
@Andy Rogers this is not right
Chowchilla: (This campaign is not getting new leads as we have a bunch; we are working through for you still) Funds provided = $150,000 Funds used = $129,500 (24 signed at $5,396/per) Signed Retainers are averaging around $3,500/per right now which means you are going to see about 3-4 more. Balance remaining = $20,500
Chowchilla is coming in 5500-6000/per
Yes I know, I just re sent them an email. I made a typo I said on the Chowchilla $3,500 I meant to write $5,500 to $6,000 which is why I said 3 to 4 more. @Cameron Rentch
@Cameron Rentch We have a small hiccup with the Video Gaming
They do not want to start doing acquisition without having a process set up. They are NOT talking about the Alan part. What they are talking about however is the secondary part which they have listed as follows:
• Sending out a welcome letter to the client • Acquiring medical records • Client engament & support ◦ Emails ◦ Text messages ◦ Updates ◦ Respond to clients in a timely manner for updates Long story short is they do NOT have anything set up on the back end yet. We can try and refer them to a CaseWorks or a Torticty if need be.
They are asking us for a built in cost per on these services. Example, lets say that we are able to sell the advertising at a KPI of $800 each. Can we add an additional $300 or whatever to the pricing to cover these costs? This would just get built in to the marketing.
I told them I would try and connect with you today as they are pushing me on this before they can start taking cases as they do not have ANY back office yet.
@Andy Rogers there is no way we can have anything done within the next 10-14 days. We need to start acquiring now and work on this plan in parallel along with the Alan component. Talk to you bit later.
@Andy Rogers please send me:
- Open AFFF orders, and any changes in criteria for each firm
- Ghozland/Nations - send me Ghozland PRIOR exact criteria (I will get retainer from Nations office)
As soon as I get off this zoom. I am working on the AFFF orders now. Have it to you shortly
@Cameron Rentch I am providing you with the AFFF and also with ILL JUV Hall
AFFF
Lit Firm Funds Provided Funds Remaining Delivered
Bowersox Bailey Glasser $480,000 $133,922 137
Flanagan Bailey Glasser $126,000 $3,900 33
Summit Bailey Glasser $100,000 $6,000 31
Loghmana Bailey Glasser $250,000 $5,240 93
Morris Law Bailey Glasser $150,000 $2,795 42
Van Law ELG $500,000 $325,000 53
Carson/Aaron ELG $200,000 $200,000 0
Ghozland Bailey Glasser $750,000 $95,000 246
Ghozland Nations $500,000 $500,000 0 (We can use the BG criteria)
IL Juv Hall
Bowersox Bailey Glasser $700,000 $23,525 243
Forman Bailey Glasser $100,000 $74,400 8
FYF Law Bailey Glasser $150,000 $111,600 12
Larry Jones Bailey Glasser $100,000 $64,000 9
Walsh Law Bailey Glasser $400,000 $342,400 18
Meirowitz Bailey Glasser $300,000 $291,800 2
& Wasserberg
@Andy Rogers please send me the exact BG criteria for Ghozland. I need to clearly provide to Nations and I dont have time to get it
also good work on Ghozland Ozempic. Who is that going to - Walsh? @Andy Rogers
@Cameron Rentch Getting you criteria now for Ghozland AFFF>
Yes the Ozempic campaign is going to be with Walsh. She was just named as the chief trial litigator on these cases. However she now wants 60/40 split which irritates me but is what it is
@Cameron Rentch Cam you can use this criteria (I also believe with Nations that he doesnt ask about latency so I have not included any below)
• PC must have been a civilian or military firefighter or exposed to or used firefighting foam on the job or training (only 1 exposure required for any firefighter) • If NOT a firefighter, PC must have a minimum of ten exposure events to the firefighting foam • If Navy personnel, PC must have a minimum of five exposure events to the firefighting foam • PC must not be a minor • PC must have been exposed to firefighting foam after 1960 • PC must have been diagnosed with one of the following: Kidney Cancer, Pancreatic Cancer, Testicular Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Bladder Cancer, Thyroid Disease, Thyroid Cancer, Liver Cancer or Ulcerative colitis Prostate cancer must be diagnosed when 55 or UNDER • PC must have developed one of the qualifying injuries at least 6 months after first exposure to the product • PC must not be currently represented by an attorney
I can probably get you 50/50 with Dicello if you want to use that to counter. @Andy Rogers
@Cameron Rentch Alert alert alert
Please make sure that Keith Jackson is not getting leads. We refunded them and he just texted me that they got three
@Andy Rogers good luck this am keep me posted...also FYI see below
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT: Please see the email I copied you on as a repsponse to Dan and Sam this morning. I tried to set up a dinner with them next week in Vegas and Dan is super pissed that we asked them to send $500,000 at the begining of April and it has been essentially a month and they have not had a single retainer on Illinois. If you can please help on that. Thank you!!
@Andy Rogers they are geting sign ups and have been active? this is from yesterday
@Cameron Rentch the email was today but all is good. I only copied you on the email to make them happy.
Jon and I have already reached out.
Please see the attached for Meadow for the AFFF and PFAS they want to do
@Cameron Rentch hey just wanted you to know that Ken Harrison came from Greg Genson. He worked his ass off on that one. I meet with Ken as well but Greg stayed on it. I did ask Patsy to bring it home as I didn’t have the time but I want you to know that Greg did a nice job on that. He seems to be the best at getting us new opportunities.
@Cameron Rentch Alert Alert do you have what you need to start FYF on their Michigan Abuse Campaign? $150,000 KPI - $2,800 - $3,150
@Andy Rogers please post retainer. Note thee rates need to go up
To what? I think that link you gave me to look at revenue based on campaign and a defined time frame must be wrong then. @Cameron Rentch
@Andy Rogers MI should be 4000-4100, IL should be 4100-4500 for ALL and 5500-6000 for under 41 (in SOL only)
our prices are just too low and it is getting more and more expensive
Okay I need to talk to them first about Michigan then. I don’t know that they want to pay that….I get it but need to clarify.
Side note I will be posting the VGA docs in a moment. @Cameron Rentch
reality @Andy Rogers the cases are costing alot more, getting competitive. I would suggest to check in weekly for and/or simply send me a message with rates before you send invoice
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Here is the Hippa and Retainer packet for VGA, minus the agreement from Levinson. for Meadow and Levinson. However we are still waiting on Dan for the joint retainer agreement
@Cameron Rentch As for Michigan I totally get it. I am NOT complaining
ok you know PN is more expensive right?
I told them I would get prices. There point was that Michigan has not passed yet and they don’t want to pay $4000 for that
about the same, NJ has to be under 55...PA has to be born AFTER November 27,1989. Less people impacted in NJ, but smaller pool in PA due to ages
@Andy Rogers need distro for meadows gaming
@Cameron Rentch I’ll explain the details on this deal that Patsy put in shortly.
@Cameron Rentch I finished the call at 6am with that firm
@Andy Rogers I know you have been dealing with the eye, there are alot of emails that dont seem to have been addressed. Can you please see my replies this am. Sandy needs some attention and chowchilla is good campaign. I already had Brian send invoice to her
@Cameron Rentch I am going to the office with our gal here in a couple minutes. I will send her back afterwards and I will stay at the office and will catch up on everything.
@Cameron Rentch I spoke with Rick earlier this morning. He said he still has not heard back from Dan. That said, here is the inital list of where to send packets. He is having his team create an intake catch all email but I told him we can add that when we get it, no need to wait.
use the following:
rmeadow@meadowlawfirm.com acrowell@meadowlawfirm.com jgordon@meadowlawfirm.com kyle@meadowlawfirm.com
Thanks boss!
I have a call at Noon with Rick and Seth to discuss a team campaign. Its a call with a call in number not a zoom. Let me know if you want to join. I do NOT need you to but as always if you want to participate it is your company 🙂 just let me know
@Andy Rogers can you get me a list all of the mostly played video games that Tina has seen (give me the top 20 so I can have intake be aware and also media team)
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Can you please see the attached. On page 1 they highlighted what they would like us to add.
@Andy Rogers where are we with Ozempic for Ghozland need to ge tthat moving asap
They are talking at 8am tomorrow and Ill know then
FYI cover letter is updated @Andy Rogers
@Andy Rogers Jarret wants to invest through crump into gaming with Rick and group. Start with 1mil. We need to set up a meeting/call next week please. Please get with Jon Wright, get dates/times and schedule for next week. thank you
@Andy Rogers just fyi, not to be shared for internal only, but so far one campaign for gaming 40/CPL 27 leads 2 contracts, our cost (not including call center costs) = 540/per. Good sign
@Cameron Rentch I do not recall giving you permission to sell that 🙂
@Cameron Rentch When do you have time to talk today?
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT I think I forgot to tell you to start Carson/Aaron on their AFFF with ELG. They will be fine with either program you want to do. Either the higer priced 6 only or the normal. Just let me know so we can start them.
@Cameron Rentch if you dont care then lets do on the normal
sounds good @Andy Rogers will turn on. 200K budget right?
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Brent Carson got an email from Jonathan Sharpe. Please only do the big 6 for Brent. I told them they will be around $8k and he is fine
@Cameron Rentch MICHIGAN - attached is the last week on Michigan. You havn’t gone over $3,200 a day. Can I quote $3,200 - $3,500?
@Cameron Rentch Can I quote Pennsylvania at around $3,500?
@Andy Rogers no 5-5500k for PN and NJ
@Andy Rogers michigan needs to be 4000-4300/per.
Costs are rising and we are not very profitable
@Andy Rogers what is the CAP with Morris for AFFF
@Andy Rogers please send me katies email address asap
ok, can you please at some point later today make sure that her and Derrick (sp) have email addresses that are NOT affiliated with MMA?
@Cameron Rentch Can you please do the refund of $30,500 for Markarem.
send to Brian and cc me @Brian Thiessen
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT
• Please start the Ghozland/Walsh Ozempic campaign • It is for $150,000 with a targeted KPI of $1,900 - $2,100 about 75 total • Distribution to: ◦ intake@alexwalshlaw.com ◦ michael@ghozlandlawfirm.com See attached documents
list for storm websites attorney names law firm names, locations and addresses attorney repsonsible for content of advertsiements in each start testimonials bios and pictures or all attorneys results that can be used (ie settlement or amounts) general content about the claims process "Simple steps how it is done" drop box of all images and videos
@Cameron Rentch ALERT:
Please confirm if we have started the following campaigns and if not do you need anything to get them going:
• The Cochran Law Firm: AFFF $50,000 KPI is $3,500 for all case types • Hardison: Ill Sex Abuse $100,000 KPI is $4,500 - $4,900 • Briet Binazian: $50,000 test on hospital abuse • Ghozland: $150,000 Ozempic with Walsh
@Cameron Rentch attached is a Google Doc with the list of questions you had above
@Andy Rogers just fyi https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-23/gsk-boehringer-win-first-us-zantac-cancer-case-to-go-to-trial
@Cameron Rentch PLEASE REPLY ASAP… are you okay with me discussing these numbers with the team as follows:
Current Cost Per Expected Volume per week
LA County $7,100 7. to 10 Illinois $5,400 4 to 6 Maryland $6,300 2 to 4 Michigan $4,200 5 to 7 New Jersey $5,250 6 to 9 Pennsylvanis $5,400 5 to 8
I would put Maryland at 6600/per. That was we can blend in TV
What about colume is that okay? @Cameron Rentch
I want to get out ahead of this as I am getting a ton of coplaints / questions
@Cameron Rentch Cameron we had a great meeting with Rocade today and BG. It went GREAT, I need pricing for the following:
AFFF - CMO 28 illnesses only
PA abuse - under age of 35 today
NJ abuse - under age of 53 today
Same prices that you asked for earlier lol @Andy Rogers ^
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT CRITERIA CHANGES
After a meeting with the Meadow team they would like us to make the following changes:
- Question 7 please break this into two questions: First asked if they have been “Diagnosed” with any of the following. If they say No then asked if they have experienced any of them. Right now it is combined into one
- Need to change age from 25 to 18
- Finally they said they have been getting a lot of secondary phone numbers like the Dad or Mom listed in the notes section, is there any way to have them just put them in the form Thank you.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Burg Simpson
$100,000 has been received for Video Gaming
Please see attached. The cover letter needs customized to add the PC name, address and salutation as packets go out.
Until we are up and running and they can get the integration with Lead Docket set up, all signed packets should be sent by email to Becky Draper BDraper@burgsimpson.com and Amy Todd (atodd@burgsimpson.com
@Cameron Rentch FYF is asking me if we were to use $150k on Michigan Juv Hall, can we commit to not going over $4200 per unless we connect with them first and give them the option to move elsewhere?
I know this seems silly and arbitrary but they wanted it at under $4,000 and asked me to commit to $4,000.
Let me know. I tried to move them to LA with Doug but they want to stay with BG
@Andy Rogers that is fine, if it seems like we will go over 4200, we will get approval first.
As soon as I land. In a couple hours. @Cameron Rentch
@Cameron Rentch please start FYF for $75,000 on Michigan Juv Hall asap. $4200 cap as we discussed above.
@Cameron Rentch BurgSimpson is not co council on the gaming addiction. Sorry if I didn’t communicate that correctly. It’s just their retainer
@Andy Rogers clarify burg simpson^^? What do you mean?
@Cameron Rentch sorry typing fast on plane.
BurgSimpson is running their own campaign. You have it listed as Meadow Law Firm being co-council.
This campaign is 💯 Seth and his team. Rick is aware and this is how they wanted to do it.
@Cameron Rentch Side note, i guess one of the links you sent to Cheney for Texas says Maui in it and Patsy has about lost her mind.
@Andy Rogers Sandy status on chowchillla? I want to get live asap
I have dinner with her tonight. I will let you know as soon as I see her today
@Cameron Rentch how would you suggest I deal with Patsy. I am looking for some direction here as she is saying that we are making her look stupid. That we are embarrassing her and that this is NOT professional. I understand you have shit to do so I am just asking when you get a moment. She will be in Salt Lake shortly and I do not need her Fucking things up with David or anyone else with a shitty attitude
@Cameron Rentch Hardinson Ill Juv Hall. Can you please confirm if that has started?
Also Ghozland AFFF.
Thank you.
@Cameron Rentch Any desire to do Paragrad? They are discussing this at Harris Martin right now and I have had multiple people ask me
@Andy Rogers waiting on intake to confirm Ghozland and Harrison.
Paragard sucks. Everyone has shitty criteria too narrow.
if something has changed or is new with Paragard let me know...
@Cameron Rentch Did you re-open FYF on Michigan? If not please do ASAP.. Thanks. There is a LOT of money behind this firm and they only want Sex Abuse. Waiting on Doug and they will do some LA as well
@Andy Rogers dont think I have any retainers, dont see this ever being set up
I had sent it all before they asked us not to start, I will refind and post
I have looked back to April 1 dont see anything in slack
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Please send all retainers to:
masstortintake@baileyglasser.com, dina@fyflaw.com
$75,000 Michigan Juv Hall not to go over $4,200 KPI
Nations/Ghozland = turned live Hardison IL Abuse = turned live
It has to be built, likely tmrw but we have shit ton of set ups still.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT please check email I just forwarded you the MSA from Rocade that they want us to sign.
@Andy Rogers sent to Dan for review.
@Andy Rogers can you resend me list you sent me for Storm Law Partners from our meeting (ie the list of items you collected for me from them?) thanks had good talk with Zach today
@Cameron Rentch I believe this is what you are asking for:
@Cameron Rentch they just announced the Trump verdict is in. Not announced yet but it is in
@Cameron Rentch Dina from FYF just texted me that she approved the test packet
Let me know about Burg Simpson @Andy Rogers
@Cameron Rentch they acknowledged as well. BurgSimpson is ready to go
@Andy Rogers we are at cap for Bowersox MI abuse. Is he sending more $?
@Cameron Rentch I messaged him and will let yo know ASAP
@Andy Rogers we are 2 away from cap with Cochoran for AFFF. Renewing? Need to know ASAP
@Cameron Rentch They will not be renewing at this moment.
@Andy Rogers can you please reach out to Carter and let him knowyou are going to scheudle a working integration session with Dwight, Mike and Hillel to get this done. Make it happen today. I have told Mike and Dwight they are to drop whatever they are doing when this is scheduled and to join the call. Please copy Carter and me on the string
@Andy Rogers please check email, please get updated burg simpson retainer packet approved.
@Cameron Rentch from Becky at Burg Simpson - Yes, that works. Thank you.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Please start ASAP Please send all retainers to:
drochen@actslaw.com intake@actslaw.com dina@fyflaw.com
$75,000 LA County Juv Hall for target of 10 retainers. Firm will send more money once we get to 6 if they are happy.
@Andy Rogers please send this missing information to Burg Simpson(from their request for options)
6. Has injured party experienced any of the following symptoms that have lasted more than 12 months: (MUST BE ONE OR MORE) Withdrawal symptoms when gaming taken away Diminished social interaction with family or friends Gamer's Rage-losing or withdrawal of game prompts anger-throwing objects, punches walls/doors, yells, cursing Loss of interest in previous hobbies and entertainment as a result of games Decline in academic performance Deceiving family members or others Change in eating pattern due to game playing time
- Has the injured party been diagnosed with any of the following injuries: Gamer's Thumb Computer Vision Syndrome Suicide Attempt Trigger Finger Changes in CT/MRI Brain Video Gaming Addiction De Quervains' Tenosynovitis Seizures (Sleep Deprivation Only) Sleep Deprivation Psychosis Carpal Tunnel Syndrome ADHD/ADD Other Psychosis Diagnosed Problems Tennis Elbow Autism Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) Cervical disc herniation/herniation Internet Gaming Disorder
8. Has the injured party experienced any of the following: Individualized Education Program (IEP) Diminished Academic Performance College Dropout Private Tutoring High School Dropout
@Andy Rogers can you please get me updated report/list of remaining budgets on each campaign?
@Cameron Rentch Here is an updated link to Budget remaining as of today: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1anz-QrZZ_LAjH_tEUqbKES48KP4IZA15/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103735641617721437324&rtpof=true&sd=true
Does this work for you?
@Andy Rogers why is this negative?
Bowersox - BG Michigan Juv Hall ($166,785) -52
@Andy Rogers you HAVE to give me more notice on campaigns!!! Note that BG Forman IL is "1" away Well we signed that one today. I have to Stop traffic well ahead of time otherwose ot is a disaster
Larry Jones showing 3 left in IL, did he renew?
@Cameron Rentch Forman was getting like 1 a week and then got 4 over the past couple days. If Forman was to go over we can allocate from his Maryland budget.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT
Bowersox would like us to move $100,000 from his MD which has a balance still of $156,000 to reduce his “overage to only $66,000”. He is asking if we can continue as he is going to move some money around on his end and get us payment of around $200,000 - $250,000 ASAP to get caught up for what would then be a $66,000 overage as of now giving him over $100,000 of runway.
For you knowledge why he got over was that you had instructed the team to add 25 to his delivery twice and some how I didnt translate that. None the less he will pay
He emailed us the same so we have it in writing.. ^ @Cameron Rentch
@Cameron Rentch Bowersox AFFF 90% (166/183) he will not be getting more AFFF
@Cameron Rentch Walsh is asking me if we think we could speed up the Ozempic campaign if they were to give us more money. Said that they havent seen much as of late. Especially for their own campaign.
Yes we are working on it. The criteria change is making it more challenging
Hey I know you are with the kids so don’t feel like you need to answer me right away. I am just putting them here in Slack so you can view when you have time
@Cameron Rentch I am going to speak with Bay Point tomorrow so I’ll use what ever you say
@Cameron Rentch REMINDER today is the 5th so you need to approve commissions
@Andy Rogers re tag me in the channel
@Cameron Rentch Bowersox has 13 left for AFFF and you have a Wenner/Nations campaign that has 8 left
Andy, can you send me a list of the total orders that we have on fire foam at the moment? Based on our new pacing, I want to make sure we have ample budget.
@Cameron Rentch Already ahead of you…
AFFF at 3pm
Bowersox - 171/184 Carson/ELG - 0/57 Ghozland/BG - 246/279 Ghozland/Nations - 21/142 Levinson/TCMC - 21/27 Levinson/ELG - 25/62 Napoli/AFK - 229/274 Dickerson/Nations - 40/96 Wenner/Nations - 24/32 Van/ELG - 70/162
Ok @Andy Rogers we need a couple 1mil budgets asap
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT CRITERIA CHANGE
Cam please see below. Based on No MDL Meadow wants to make the following changes. They might be willing to open up criteria afterwards but want to run this much tighter criteria for a couple weeks. Rick is open to a call with you tomorrow if you’d like.
Per our discussion yesterday morning, Meadow Law wishes to amend the intake form as follows: Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, question 6 should read:
Has the injured party been medically diagnosed with Video Gaming Addiction and/or Internet Gaming Disorder?
If the caller indicates yes, obtain the date of Dx and the provider. If the caller indicates no, ask: have you sought evaluation and/or treatment If the caller indicates yes, obtain the date(s) and providers. If the caller indicates no, ask: are you willing to seek evaluation and/or treatment? ANSWER MUST BE A YES
Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, question 7 should read: Has the injured party been medically diagnosed with any of the following injuries? The intake specialist could select a plethora of other injuries such as ADHD, ODD, etc.
Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, question 8 should read: Has the injured party experienced any of the following symptoms that have lasted more than 12 months. ANSWER MUST BE A YES
Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, we can remove the current question 8, as that is already answered by current question 6 (future question 7).
Move questions 84-87 to VIDEO GAME RELATED INJURIES Move question 88 to VIDEO GAME TRANSACTIONS and remove VIDEO GAME TRANSACTION PLATFORMS entirely. Move VIDEO GAME RELATED INJURIES after INFORMATION ABOUT INJURED PARTY.
With respect to the criteria, we will only proceed with clients who use Microsoft and/or PlayStation.
Additionally, we will only proceed with clients who primarily play the following five games (one or more): Roblox GTA Minecraft Fortnite Call of Duty
Clients must be (1) 18 and under who (2) have been or are willing to be diagnosed with video gaming addiction and/or internet gaming disorder. We want to know if the client is neurodivergent (e.g., Autistic, ADHD/ADD, ODD), but a client will not be disqualified if he or she has not been diagnosed if they indicate they are willing to seek a medical diagnosis. For these reasons, we have changed the order of the intake questions as reflected above.
Question 7 update Has the injured party been MEDICALLY diagnosed with any of the following injuries: (add Video Gaming Addiction and/or Internet Gaming Disorder as options)
~Has the injured party been medically diagnosed with Video Gaming Addiction and/or Internet Gaming Disorder?~
For Internet Gaming Addiction, Intenet Gaming Disorder If the caller indicates yes, obtain the date of Dx and the provider. If the caller indicates no, ask: have you sought evaluation and/or treatment If the caller indicates yes, obtain the date(s) and providers. If the caller indicates no, ask: are you willing to seek evaluation and/or treatment for Video Gaming Addiction and/or Internet Gaming Disorder? ANSWER MUST BE A YES
~Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, question 7 should read:~ ~Has the injured party been medically diagnosed with any of the following injuries? The intake specialist could select a plethora of other injuries such as ADHD, ODD, etc.~ The above is listed on question 7, would be duplicative
~Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, question 8 should read:~ ~Has the injured party experienced any of the following symptoms that have lasted more than 12 months. ANSWER MUST BE A YES~
Replace question 8 with question 61- (I believe this is not used) Under GENERAL CASE QUESTIONS, we can remove the current question 8, as that is already answered by current question 6 (future question 7). Replace with question 61 and update criteria: Question 61, only qualifying consoles/systems played are Microsoft (x box) and Sony Playstation. Any other platforms must be disqualified. (note to intake move question 61 to question 8, as it s now a qualifying question)
Please re-format this question as follows as follows: Has the gamer used either Microsoft X Box or Sony Playstation? Drop down, Yes - Microsoft X Box, Yes - Sony Playstation, Yes - Microsoft X Box and Sony Playstation, NO = DQ If YES to any of above trigger additional question 8a Has the gamer played one or more of the following games regularly? Drop down select one (ok to indicate to caller whichever was played most frequently) Roblox GTA (Grand Theft Auto) Minecraft Fortnite Call of Duty None or other (DQ)
~Move questions 84-87 to VIDEO GAME RELATED INJURIES~ ~Move question 88 to VIDEO GAME TRANSACTIONS and remove VIDEO GAME TRANSACTION PLATFORMS entirely.~ ~Move VIDEO GAME RELATED INJURIES after INFORMATION ABOUT INJURED PARTY.~ This will result in corrupted data tables and interrupt the flow if intake , and will require additional retraining
~With respect to the criteria, we will only proceed with clients who use Microsoft and/or PlayStation.~
~Additionally, we will only proceed with clients who primarily play the following five games (one or more):~ ~Roblox~ ~GTA~ ~Minecraft~ ~Fortnite~ ~Call of Duty~
Updated Baseline Criteria: • Clients must be 18 or under (at time of intake) • Clients have been or are willing to be diagnosed with video gaming addiction and/or internet gaming disorder (.We want to know if the client has been diagnosed with other conditions and the symptoms they have experienced (e.g., Autistic, ADHD/ADD, ODD, Gamers Rage), but a client will not be disqualified if he or she has not been diagnosed PROVIDED they are WILLING to seek a medical diagnosis. ) • Clients have used either Microsoft X box or Sony Playstation • Client have played at least one of the following games regularly: Roblox, GTA (Grand Theft Auto), Minecraft, Fortnite,Call of Duty
@Andy Rogers please send me the exact language update for Cumberland
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT
Please see below for Bowersox. I have a call with him this afternoon to see what type of budget he can spend. As you can see we are not over budget in total, but we are in certain areas. I will let you know how much he can send and to what campaigns this afternoon.
Budget Remaining Delivered
AFFF $480,000 $10,150 182
IL Juv $700,000 $23,525 243
MI Juv $600,000 $(83,250) 223
MD Juv $300,000 $52,300 52
PA Juv $250,000 $(1,200) 63
_**Totals: $2,330,000 $1,525**_
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT
Bowersox full now on AFFF, lets pull that one. (I have been updating you on all of these for the last week and a half every two hours so this should NOT be a suprise)
@Cameron Rentch I am looking at BG Ghozland. It appears to me that we have a budget of $750,000 and we have only spent $655,700. We haven’t delivered a signed contract since January 29th at $2,500 a pop
@Andy Rogers costs are much higher. I think you should revisit costs. Something may be off here
Yes, at $3,700 a piece he should get another 27.
I will have Brianna run me a full report in the morning but I think this is correct
@Andy Rogers from Greg Owen we are at 45 signups for Burg Simpson - Gaming Addiction. You asked to be notified when we got to 45. Cap is currently 65.
@Cameron Rentch Did we ever land on being able to sell Meso to anyone else?
Waiting on Todd and Selby to get back to us
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT ALERT
Please move remaining budget that FYF has for Michigan to LA. That should be $67,600.
There new cap on LA should be 18.
@Andy Rogers FYI new creative. Thought you would like this...
SL VGA animation-24218-16x9-CAP-https://f.io/1QoODfH1
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT Please read and reply ASAP
As you can see below we are coming in far below the $1,500 price point that we are charging BurgSimpson plus we have set caps for Meadow based on $1,500 as well. I am FINE with whatever you WANT or NEED pricing to be. That said I do need them to be closer to one another.
Additionally and more importantly, Seth and Rick are asking if we can slow down the burn rate. I have a call with both of them this afternoon around 4pm to discuss what is feasible for Seth. I am happy to include you or run it myself.
Thank you!
This is the data I am looking at:
@Andy Rogers it will blend out but remember Meadow started much earlier so we collected far more leads to date for them, prior, when CPLS's were lower and those are now converting better. In any event, it will start blending out but may take another 7-10 days as we are now about to change criteria yet again.
They need to be realistic with what they are asking from a spend standpoint. If they can't handle the volume, I need you to get additional LARGE sales from other law firms. We should be targeting budgets of 1mil minimally
I am trying I have reached out to everyone that was in the hopper for VGA so far. I hope to bring in budgets fast. I have asked Craig, Greg and Patsy to help but I am putting this all on my back.
Thats what you wanted! lol You have really gone out on a limb for Rick and their group and they need to dig into their pockets 🙂
It’s my fault the MDL got fucked. Rick will, I need Jeff to give them some $.
I am working on it boss. Go plan your party 🎉
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT: BUDGET CHANGES
Jeff Bowersox:
Maryland/Pennsylvania: Move $30,000 (from the $52,000 currently in the Maryland campaign) to the new Pennsylvania campaign. Additionally, he sent $120,000 Pennsylvania campaign for a total initial investment in the Pennsylvania campaign of $150,000.
Illinois/New Jersey: Please stop the Illinois campaign, Move balance around $23,000 currently in the Illinois campaign) to the New Jersey campaign. Additionally, he sent $130,000 New Jersey campaign for a total initial investment in the New Jersey campaign of $150,000.
Michigan: Close the Michigan campaign. sent $83,000 to your San Diego address to apply to my overage on the Michigan campaign.
AFFF: Stop AFFF
$333,000 was sent via check. He sent those to the San Diego Office address.
@Cameron Rentch I am meeting with Dan and Sam today and they are asking me if they should keep what they have in Illinois as it has been almost non existent for them or should we move somewhere else?
@Andy Rogers they got sign ups last week in IL
@Cameron Rentch thanks…I am meeting with Dan this evening
@Andy Rogers suggest “prep” them about asbestos but tell them we have to get BG approval first.
@Andy Rogers please get me updates as quick as you can on Sandy $ Rocade $ Meadows/group $
@Cameron Rentch met with Sandy and Jeff yesterday, they are supposed to be funded any minute.
Meadows and Huff team are meeting tomorrow afternoon with the funders and should have docs to sign. If they get them they are about a month away from funding but Rob Gordon’s father in law should fund the bridge. They need the paperwork first.
Chandler and Rocade are in meetings until 2:00pm and then he is calling me
@Cameron Rentch please see email and text I send you from Jonathan Weisz
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT - We have run through Burg Simpson money and they are not in a position to send more right now. It looks like they have only $25,000 left of the $350,000
@Cameron Rentch Please make sure that Rhine Maryland is turned off. They had not received a signed retainer since March 20th however over the past week they have received 2.
Rhine traffic has not been on. I’ll look into it
@Cameron Rentch PLease review the email I just sent you that I would like to send Cater
@Cameron Rentch Just uploaded the BayPoint docs to you
@Cameron Rentch NOT urgent. But when you have a moment please let me know how you would like me to reply to her. I’d like to tell her to go “F” herself
haha @Andy Rogers just replied. All good just reply professionally
feel free to copy me on the reply. I will reply all politley and professionall
@Andy Rogers what is Rick Meadows correct email address? I will cc you need to get an intro
@Andy Rogers can you immedaietly find Julie for me and tell her to slack me asap
urgent item I need her to handle asao
@Cameron Rentch Just sent you an email from Julia on VGA. It can wait until the morning as I am sure you are exhausted
@Andy Rogers why would Rick tell Jarret not to spend money??? ugh
@Andy Rogers who are the new CA Juv cases with? Doug or Another firm?
Darren Miller / Andy Ruebenstein. They have an agreement with Doug on the back end but these are going to D.
@Andy Rogers do NOT send this yet, I will call you shortly but I want you to see what our PD/Intake notes are. As you can read, the cases all qualify based on the criteria THEY provided (attached). The can not "cherry pick" and must accept cases that meet the provided criteria. This is the real challenge with then that we are going to have to try to work through.
@Cameron Rentch @Greg Owen @Malissa Cameron please see the following information for Michael Ghozland partnership with The Meadow Law Firm on VGA. We would like to make sure that all of the signed retainers on this campaign are run through the new program discussed yesterday. Additionally, we can charge the $150 - $300 for completed post interview to the cost per…
Money is in house and ready to go
$200,000 for VGA target a total of 120 signed retainers this includes the post sign up cost.
Please send all intakes to michael@ghozlandlawfirm.com and to acrowell@meadowlawfirm.com, jgordon@meadowlawfirm.com and however we set up the data to go to Alan’s VSS team.
Please see attached Joint Retainer and Hippa
@Greg Owen Please make sure this is entered in Copper and that you get this campaign added to the dashboards for Michael Ghozland and Meadow Law
@Cameron Rentch @Malissa @Greg Owen
Money is in house and ready to go Investment Firm: Robert Woods Handling Firm: D. Miller & Associates Law Firm Case Type: LA County Juvenile Institutional Sexual Abuse Budget: $100K Target KPI: 13 - 14
ATTACHMENTS:
- Juvenile SA Retainer – DMA/Robert Woods
- DMAA HIPAA
- Juvenile SA JV Agreement – DMA/Robert Woods EMAIL DELIVERY LIST:
- Jennifer Ramirez jramirez@dmillerlaw.com
- Attorney referrals attorneyreferrals@thedmaadvocates.com
- Precious Hudson precious@thedmaadvocates.com
- Robert Woods robert@attorneyrobertwoods.com @Greg Owen Please make sure this is entered in Copper and that you get this campaign added to the dashboards for Robert Woods and Darren Miller
@Andy Rogers note we do not need their JV agreement but got it
@Andy Rogers can you please get me distribution for AWKO video game?
@Cameron Rentch Still trying email maybe this will work..
Call me if you have any questions. I would also like to see the final version. I used a couple of things from the past but thought it might be better to just address their questions head on.
thanks @Andy Rogers will review a bit later!
bullet points for TIP
We’ve coupled next-evolution intake, real-time auditing, and carefully crafted processes to ensure the best results for your lead generation and advertising campaigns.
Highly-Trained Intake Specialists
Fast & Compliant Data Handling
Quality Assurance and Auditing
Next-Gen Client Communication
Dual Rep Identification
Detailed Campaign Reporting & API Integration
TCPA Compliance & Ethical Intake Policies
US Based Background Checked Workforce
Attorney Supervision
Certified Crisis Counselors and Social Workers
◦ Currently, Shield goes to market by backing into a targeted “Cost Per Signed Retainer”. This allows clients to feel comfortable around their costs. This allows Shield to concentrate on delivering the quality through our intake center and not have the intake process short cutted
Update to read
Shield Legal has not engaged in any "back-end" percentages for a variety of reasons. Shield Legal uses the media, intake and post acquisition costs to back in to a range of a cost per onboarded client. This is far more than a "signed claimant" which results in drastically reduced fallout rates.
◦ Lessons learned
▪︎ Redefining the relationship, We are "partners" not "vendors"
▪︎ Being incredibly selective with partner law firms to work with
▪︎ Ultimately the cost per compensable case is much more important that cost per acquisition
▪︎ Finding solutions for firms ultimately will keep them happy and make them more successful
▪︎ Real time "auditing" and having a Quality Assurance team
▪︎ Creative solutions to eliminate dual rep issue
▪︎ Fall out is based on more than just the quality of the original intake
◦ Multiple competing clients and/or same MSA
▪︎ Incoming leads are assigned to participating firms automatically through our systems which allows for complete randomness and zero opportunity for cherry picking
▪︎ Exclusive Litigating Law firm "partnerships"
• Marketing & Advertising Process ◦ Developing marketing plan once target criteria elements have been developed by DiCello Levitt ▪︎ Analyze prior campaigns and/or campaigns with similar demographics ▪︎ Create audiences, exclusion lists, dual rep databases ▪︎ Develop marketing assets to align with the target criteria (Landing pages, creatives, etc) ▪︎ Careful review of all intake and post acquisition documents ▪︎ Create benchmarks for each step of the claimant journey ▪︎ Multi-variant ad testing across multiple platforms using proven creatives ◦ Outside service providers used ▪︎ Shield Legal & Tort Intake Professionals do NOT ever use outside service providers. ◦ Determining key mediums and geographic markets ▪︎ Data analysis of the target claimant ▪︎ Data analysis of previous signed claimants based on various demographic and geographic considerations ▪︎ Careful review of competition in marketing platforms and channels ◦ KPIs tracked as marketing/ advertising plans are refined ▪︎ Real time media and performance tracking based on ad accounts, creatives, media buyers, platforms, cpl's, cpm's, contact rate, conversation rate
@Cameron Rentch Please have a look as this has all of your changes
@Andy Rogers here are some other changes
Change this : • How frequently are fixed price agreements amended? ◦ Shield does NOT typically enter into a fixed price agreement for all of the aforementioned reasons. By partnering with strategic firms and by having the level of transparency we have the freedom to adjust on the fly to optimize price and quality. ◦ We are typically asked for the following three items on every campaign. ▪︎ Quality – This means more than just “meeting criteria” this means compliance as well ▪︎ Pricing – The first thing I typically hear from a firm we have not worked with before is… What is the price and qualifications? ▪︎ Speed – How fast can I get cases? To THIS:
• How frequently are fixed price agreements amended? ◦ There are natural cost adjustments throughout the typical mass tort cycle. Dependent on the specific tort, stage, total available market, changes in litigation, post acquisition deadlines (requiring increased staffing), as well as season marketing and conversion variations that must be taken into account. ◦ Since we work within ranges rather than fixed pricing we are able to control any drastic changes in acquisition and onboarding
Change this:
• Client Intake ◦ How frequently are credits received after QA violations or dual reps? ▪︎ Because of our Quality Assurance team we are able to catch the majority of these before they ever reach the firm. Keeping our percentages in the low single digits ▪︎ The largest reason for dual reps with Shield is when a firm does NOT follow up with a client in a timely manner and the client seeks representation from another firm - it wasn’t a dual rep when we signed them ◦ Thinking behind medical record inconsistencies not warranting a credit ▪︎ Because other companies are purchasing leads/cases they can be much more lenient with a return policy. This is due to a much lower price point and a lack of quality. It becomes a numbers game ▪︎ After 2 plus decades in the business it is a given that clients can and do lie. They also forget. This is why we have such an arduous intake process because it forces someone to answer same/similar questions asked differently TO THIS:
• Client Intake ◦ How frequently are credits received after QA violations or dual reps? ▪︎ QA review and declines are typically caught before the claimant is ever signed and with out dual rep database we are able to drastically eliminate dual rep issues ◦ Thinking behind medical record inconsistencies not warranting a credit ▪︎ The reality in Mass Torts is understanding that there is a reasonable fall out that should be anticipated in each specific case type. ▪︎ Careful analysis and realistic forecasting can ensure fallout from medical records not matching claimant intake diagnosis is required ▪︎ Diligent post acquisition processes are required to help reduce medical record issues
@Andy Rogers eliminate slies 11,12,13,14,15
@Andy Rogers in Client Intake add
Seamless Integration with Shield-TIP-DL
Shield Legal, Tort Intake Professionals and DiCello Levitt have developed seamless system integration between various company platforms • Skilled Data Science and Analytics staffing • Daily data sync and weekly reconciliation • Detailed claimant status tracking Post Acquisition and Client Onboarding
Tort Intake Professionals provides post acquisition and client onboarding services including:
• Claimant verification (ID verification via Dentity.com ) • Medical record retrieval • Secondary Interviews/Plaintiff Fact Sheets • Document collection and processing • VSS (Victim Support Specialists) for Sexual Abuse Claimants • CSP (Client Service Professionals) for diligent claimant care and follow up • Supervising Attorneys
@Andy Rogers For this section please add the following
Historical relationship with DiCello Levitt
• 75,000 plus claimants acquired and onboarded • Passionate core value alignment • 50+ Million Deployed • Forefront of Emerging Torts • Unrivaled Speed to Market • Optimized Performance • Reduced Fallout
I think that does it - as soon as you have this ready please send. I will be up ane driving home at 6am, need to get to Abe and Dave to review asap in am
@Andy Rogers this slide is not accurate, see the changes I sent you yesterday
@Cameron Rentch I missed this because it was on the KeyNote slide
additional notes:
- renumber the pages on bottom have wrong numbers
- fix the slides atatched
@Cameron Rentch Not sure what you are asking I dont see it
After I approve, you will send to Dave and Abe for review ddiamond@certumgroup.com mabramowitz@dicellolevitt.com
@Cameron Rentch All of the slides have same fonts and corresponding sizes throughout on this one…
@Andy Rogers last items
SLides 7,8,9,10 all have the title
@Andy Rogers align the headlines on each oage to be consistent with theoir outline
Shield Background • Genesis story and business overview • Comparing Shield’s business model with other vendors in the space ◦ Does Shield ever operate under a cost-plus model or receive a bank-end promote? • Profile of key clients • Historical relationship with DiCello Levitt • Commentary regarding past successes and failure tied to legacy campaigns (particularly as related to CAC and fallout) • Lessons learned since forming • Handling potential conflicts (e.g., multiple clients competing in similar MSAs for same torts etc.) Marketing & Advertising Process (maybe we use hair relaxers or Camp Lejeune as a guide here) • Developing marketing plan once target criteria elements have been developed by DiCello Levitt • Outside service providers used • Determining key mediums and geographic markets • KPIs tracked as marketing/ advertising plans are refined • How frequently are fixed price agreements amended? Client Intake • How frequently are credits received after QA violations or dual reps? • Thinking behind medical record inconsistencies not warranting a credit • Describe interaction with DiCello Levitt/ integration with their systems and people throughout the intake process • Involvement (if any) with the claimant once retained as DiCello Levitt client.
@Cameron Rentch is it too late to have the Ghozland campaign go to Alystock?
@Cameron Rentch I believe you have all of the documents for this campaign.
Here is the distribution list VGA for Aylstock and Grombacher
@Andy Rogers we can do that but will need to rebuild it.
@Cameron Rentch update from Zach this morning was…they are still working with Huff.
I have a call into Jeff to get details.
@Cameron Rentch The tabs at the bottom show the month. Make sure you see you are on July
@Cameron Rentch Please see the email I forwarded you from them when you get a moment. In the meantime, here is the criteria that they are looking for in PFAS. I need to give them some pricing and a proposed starting budget.
@Cameron Rentch From Wietz and Lux:
Good morning Andy,
W&L would prefer not to accept thyroid disease cases. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense financially for us to take them. They’re not as valuable as the other cancers and ulcerative colitis.
About military bases, please understand that for the PFAS contamination at a military base to matter for our purposes, it has to be in the drinking water. Contamination of groundwater or surface water isn’t sufficient. Many of the military bases on the list you shared did not have contamination in the drinking water (but rather mere contamination of the groundwater or surface) (Altus Air Force Base in Oklahoma and Naval Air Station in Meridien, Mississippi). It’s basically like living next to a pond that is contaminated with PFAS. Unless the pond supplies your drinking water, that contamination doesn’t really matter because you’re not drinking from the pond. But we have a good idea. We would like to send you a list of the military bases that we know had contaminated drinking water. Please hold a few days on this while a paralegal compiles this.
On SOLs, the rule we’ve been using is the discovery rule starting from the EPA’s designation of PFOS as a hazardous substance in April. I am saying that anyone who comes in this year (2024) is going to be within the SOL per the discovery rule. That obviously won’t work if any of these cases go into litigation, but this is a settlement play. We will have to revise that if we continue to intake into 2025, but that’s where we are right now. Otherwise, the SOL analysis is too complex to keep up with the pace of intake.
We will also give you a zip code list where we’ve learned there is contaminated drinking water that is being updated now. But just know it’s not exhaustive. But it’s still definitely helpful!
If you’d like to speak to our expert, do let me know and I can arrange a meeting. His name is James Bilsborrow and he really is a bright and shining star.
LL.
@Andy Rogers we need a CLEAR set of instructions regarding SOL's. It must be easy enough for Intake rep to understand it. What they sent is "legal talk" that is not useful for us with regard to building automations. Here is the questions; What years are accepted for anyone diagnosed with the specific conditions/cancers in each state? We need a hard and fast rule. thanks
I know, I replied that to her already. I was just showing you what they sent. Apologies for confusion
@Cameron Rentch Here is the reply from WL - Anyone diagnosed in the past 10 years is our rule.
ok so please get confirmation:
Exposed 1960 or after
They will provide select Military bases
Diagnosed with any of the following: Kidney Cancer 1 year Testicular Cancer 1 year Thyroid Disease - hypo and hyperthyroidism, hashimoto’s disease 1 year Ulcerative Colitis 6 months Liver Cancer 1 year Thyroid Cancer 1 year
Diagnosed within the last 10 years
These will likely be farily expensive, dependent on the specific bases they provide us
@Cameron Rentch ALERT FYF would like us to move $55,000 from Illinois to LA County.
They are going to have a meeting later this week to discuss a larger budget and understand that in the future we cannot wait this long.
Please confirm you are able to move this
@Andy Rogers reminders:
- Red - resolve her pay issues. I need something that shows how much she is working and reasons to justify increases (ie vs tony and/or Point break using uber etc)
- David Evans follow up re the Raiders. See message below
*Thread Reply:* @Cameron Rentch thank you. I will have the Red thing to you by end of day tomorrow. Additionally with Dave I will see him in Nashville and work through that.
*Thread Reply:* So I am clear, do you need me to review with you any of the F1 stuff he and I saw? I will tell you it was pretty darn impressive and I think it would be cost effective as well
*Thread Reply:* @Andy Rogers no, I need a plan built by you for each of the raiders games he wants to book, who will be invited to each, estimated rev for each. If we are spending 130k on football gams they need to have strategic reasons and justification for ROI. Please put a plan together on who will attend each game, etc and estimated rev
*Thread Reply:* Sounds good. I agree with you. I am just trying to be helpful and do what is needed of me.
LInk to travel sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Z4rOOoDLA-gD6op6JpN1ltDrHcbQdmfQCA4kzr6Bzc/edit?usp=sharing
Nick is thinking about staying for a couple of weeks but needs a few days to decide.
Melanie is not sure when she wants to come back yet
My only issue is that I need to decide if I am going to see Weitz and Lux beforehand. But if you want to I can just go from Houston and back to houston. Just moght be able to kill two birds. Instead of having to make a 5 hour flight and then an 11 hour flight
Seems like you should go to NY. Just update your sheet accordingly. You can book a one way to NY then we can get you a NY->London->London->Houston return
Okay then I will stay the weekend in New York
FYI it might be cheaper if I book the entire thing through my United becuase I really do not want to fly coach class
Wasn’t planning on sending you coach
@Andy Rogers forwarded updated AWKO test intake to your email
@Cameron Rentch did you send the last test to AWKO to: awkonewreferrals@awkolaw.com (mailto:awkonewreferrals@awkolaw.com)
They just told me that they have not seen it
@Cameron Rentch apologies if I should know this….what is the “shield distro” email list that Patsy wants me to add her to?
She’s not being added to that it’s for everything.
@Cameron Rentch I thought as much. Thank you. FYI I did talk with Craig and made it clear that it is not acceptable to share information.
I also sent out an email to the team reiterating that point. I wrote it in a very professional manner but left no room for ambiguity.
@Cameron Rentch Did you send out the AWKO test packet to awkonewreferrals@awkolaw.com As soon as I know I will call them to confirm they got it and we can start
Yes but @Andy Rogers told you yesterday.
Sent yestrday and forwarded you via email
@Cameron Rentch ALERT ALERT AWKO has still NOT received the intake packet from us
@Andy Rogers it was sent as instructed. Check your email again I’m forwarding it to you again. Have them check their spam.
Actually, now I see that Intake fucked up. I’ll resend it hold on.
I see it now too. Missed the a at the beginning. Thanks, I hope your day is going well with your daughter
got it! all good thanks @Andy Rogers
ha feel ya...FYI I signed a bunch of AWD docs today for the 2nd round of $ let them know it done
Okay. I am setting a call with him for more money
@Andy Rogers can you please find out if we are doing secondary interviews for AWKO for the VGA cases?
@Cameron Rentch Here are the additional Camps in LA for Miller if you want to open up:
- Camp Clinton B. Afflerbaugh
- Camp David Gonzales
- Camp Karl Holton
- Camp Gregory Jarvis
- Camp Vernon Kilpatrick
- Dorothy Kirby Center
- Camp Ronald McNair
- Camp William Mendenhall
- Camp Fred Miller
- Camp John Munz
- Camp Joseph Paige
- Camp Judith Resnick
- Camp Glenn Rockey
- Camp Louis Routh
- Camp Scott
- Camp Francis Scobee
- Camp Kenyon Scudder
- Camp Michael Smith
- Camp Los Padrinos
@Cameron Rentch Here is an easy breakdown of Red’s Hours with some thoughts from me. I am happy to do whatever you think just giving some food for thought.
10 hours a week for Tony - 40 a month 10-15 hours twice a month for Cameron/Andy - 30 a month Clients / AdHoc - 20 hours a month 10 hours a week for Elite - 40 a month MTMP twice a year plus other events - 150 hours spread out the year - average of 12 a month
She is also providing coffee and drinks to folks.
On average 142 hours per month. Due to her having to be available whenever we ask she has cut her typical Uber business. She would normally charge $100 an hour for Black Service which would be $14,200 a month.
She is asking for $8,000 a month but this would still mean we have to pay the other drivers when needed.
I have a suggestion… What if we pay her a flat fee of a little more but that covers everything, We could also bonus her like an extra $1,500 or so during high events like MTMP or F1?
This is from Red: 20 hours a week min for Shield and another average 10 hrs for elite, mostly concurrent hours and when clients and top guys are here we average an additional 10 to 15 hrs. And often additional drivers. Often arriving and departing at all hours. Due to most arrangements being made less than 72 hrs in advance I am unable to provide services to my other clients causing huge loss of income. I cannot sustain my business on the original quoted price, due to the demand and spontaneous needs.
@Andy Rogers https://themedialaboratory.slack.com/archives/D036X6QFJS1/p1721306628145969
@Andy Rogers just fyi - for the Miller campaigns, I would not expect much additinal to be signed from the camps. We ran this separate 2+ years ago and pretty much tapped out the market. We will still add it
I would like Tony to speak with this person^ could be useful
Also can you pls check the sheet you and I created for payments/deals pending and make sure we are up to date? Seems like we should have had more $ in based on the sheet
I just did a quick update. I will review more later. Seems the big misses are Sandy Van and then Zachs group which I am meeting with next week.
@Cameron Rentch I just got a text from Alystock asking me to jump on a call with him this afternoon. Have we started them yet? I would check but I am not able to right now and thought if you knew
We’ve been running for some time. Check the slack channel
For Meadow they are okay if we go through what we have with the criteria the way you and I spoke @Cameron Rentch
@Andy Rogers confirm 16 or younger violence or suicide attempt AND/OR diagnosed with video gaming addiction and/or internet gaming disorder OR willing to seek a diagnosis of video gaming addiction and/or internet gaming disorder
@Andy Rogers try this card 4197-4600-6761-9834 exp 6/28 Cameron Rentch 7180 Pollock Dr, 2nd floor LV NV 89119
code is 330
when you are booking make sure you have pop up blocker disabled on your computer. alot of times it will ask you to send a "code" to verify the charges. If you are blocking pop ups you will not be able to see that notification
@Cameron Rentch Where you able to connect with Marc about Red?
@Cameron Rentch I am on with UBS and they are asking me who my financial advisor is at UBS. They are blocking every transaction I try to make
Off subject we didnt discuss last night. Red needs to turn in her invoice. @Cameron Rentch
Marc and I spoke. He still thinks it is "too much" but told me we can give her the 8k/month but wants her doing everything she is already and more. Before you talk with her let's you and I talk in about 1015 PST
please get comfirmation on this @Andy Rogers for processing Meadwos remaining VGA
@Cameron Rentch I thought I confirmed yesterday. That is correct
@Cameron Rentch I sent you an email this morning it would be around 4:55AM your time from Seth on a new campaign. Please have a look and let mw know if you have any thoughts/feedback
Another email I sent to you at 5:50AM. It is from AWD wanting us to fill out a “due diligence”.
@Andy Rogers email from Seth = this is the same IVF campaign that Jerry Parker wanted us to run, that we never ran
I will work on the diligence document
@Cameron Rentch I just got the info from Seth and Ghozland. Malissa should be entering it ASAP. They are ready to roll.
@Cameron Rentch Here is the criteria for Ghozland/BurgSimpson
Burg Simpson and Ghozland
Campaign Criteria: • Not represented by another attorney • Over the age of 5 • Under the age of 16 • Played a minimum of 70 hours in 5 weeks & MUST have been playing after 2015 • Displayed violent behavior and/or attempted suicide. AND/OR • Have been diagnosed with one or more of the following injuries: ◦ Mental Health Injury: ▪︎ Internet gaming disorder ▪︎ Video gaming addiction AND/OR • IF NOT DIAGNOSED ◦ MUST be willing to SEEK a medical diagnosis for Internet gaming disorder and/or Video gaming addiction • MUST have played at least one of the following games regularly: ◦ Roblox ◦ Fortnite • Must have used one or more of the following gaming consoles: ◦ Microsoft Xbox ◦ Sony PlayStation ◦ Other (NOT NINTENDO) Disqualify if: • If already represented • Over 16 years old • Under 5 years old • Did not play a minimum of 70 hours in 5 weeks and did not play games after 2015 • Did not display violent behavior or attempted suicide AND/OR NOT diagnosed with Internet gaming Disorder and/or Video gaming addiction AND/OR is NOT willing to seek a medical diagnosis for Internet gaming disorder and/or Video gaming addiction. • Did not use a qualifying gaming console ◦ Watch if they only played on Nintendo • Did not play at least one of the qualifying games regularly
@Andy Rogers sent you completed diligence document for AWD
@Cameron Rentch AWKO cant meet tomorrow on Chowchilla so I am going to handle on my own if you cant. No big deal as I am fine without you.
I can probably talk today, maybe 330PST, or after 530PST
@Andy Rogers few items of note from the paid vs spent update:
- We have a contract that is still open where we get lung cancer from AFFF and send them to BG, this has accumulated 118.401 in spend to date. I think we all just overlooked it. Would like to see if we can get this cleared up. if they dont want to take any longer I can probably set up a campaign with levinson for this overflow. Please let me know.
- AWKO is 28K over. Not sure how that happened because they were told to pause at cap. Let me know how you want this resolved?
- Sandy is 54K over on Chowchilla but I think we will have a couple of claimants fall out for QA reasons, so this will probably balance itself out - let's give it a couple of weeks
- Bowersox shows 28K over on AFFF and over 8250 on MI Not sure if this is accurate? Also, doesnt he still owe us money on PA? (Or did he pay and square up?)
- Rhine shows owing 88200 on Maryland
- FYF shows over 11500 in IL, recommend moving funds from their CA back to cover overage I would like to get this above addressed and cleared up at earliest convenience
@Cameron Rentch Please see my answers…
- We have a contract that is still open where we get lung cancer from AFFF and send them to BG, this has accumulated 118.401 in spend to date. I think we all just overlooked it. Would like to see if we can get this cleared up. if they dont want to take any longer I can probably set up a campaign with levinson for this overflow. Please let me know. a. I spoke with Jon. He needs us to shut this off as they too forgot this was going. He needs to talk to Todd about it but said he will get us paid.
- AWKO is 28K over. Not sure how that happened because they were told to pause at cap. Let me know how you want this resolved? a. I would like to hold off to see what they do with the Chowchilla and then I will let them know we are doing an audit on their first VGA and tell them it went over by $28k. I believe I can get it. Just give me a week or so.
- Sandy is 54K over on Chowchilla but I think we will have a couple of claimants fall out for QA reasons, so this will probably balance itself out - let’s give it a couple of weeks
- Bowersox shows 28K over on AFFF and over 8250 on MI Not sure if this is accurate? Also, doesnt he still owe us money on PA? (Or did he pay and square up?) a. Bowersox paid us a total of $333,000 on June 18th to pay off the balance on Michigan which was stopped. $130,000 of that was for New Jersey and $120,000 of that was for PA with another $30,000 being moved from Maryland to PA. b. There should not have been an overage on his AFFF but if there is I can get that from him.
- Rhine shows owing 88200 on Maryland a. I am sending two invoices right now each for half of this. I spoke with Jon Becker and Joel Rhine and they will pay this
- FYF shows over 11500 in IL, recommend moving funds from their CA back to cover overage a. Yes please move over to cover this while I am working on getting more money I would like to get this above addressed and cleared up at earliest convenience
@Andy Rogers got it. Regarding item 4 - look at his records in the paid vs spent, it must be accurate. If it is not then please update! Thank you
@Cameron Rentch can we plz turn Maryland Bowersox off?
@Cameron Rentch Here is the NEC criteria from Wagstaff
@Andy Rogers ELG had agreed to accept claimants that are willing to get a diagnosis via a blood test (you had emailed them about this some time ago). Attached are repalcement requests for Baypoint that MEET criteria. I need you to get with ELG immedaitely (today) to review and get them to accept these so we do not have to replace>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1toKa6QzZ9c0ZfbeKyCdcXUdKpu1B61VdBP-2aEZEB9o/edit?usp=sharing
The 3rd to last column from the right designates whether or not each case meets criteria, and the final column is an explanation.
@Andy Rogers documents for AWKO NEC? Need asap!!
@Cameron Rentch I know. I have emailed everyone on AWKO. I sent an email before I took off and I copied Malissa Philips and she is following up. I will text Bryan right now again
@Andy Rogers text me when you land I will update you on call with Carter
@Andy Rogers WAL only = 5 signed since July 12 WAL GHO = 7 signed since July 12
WAL https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xt0prEn9WYM7PExyp9zwRpcODIcTi2WF1cyMybBcXN4/edit?usp=sharing
WAL GHO https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/103oSLmW2X9s2QqBLLf37JSbzt5SalyfnvOQAywVoFNU/edit?usp=sharing
If you can add a tab for August, copy the exact format and transfer any over to that tab
@Andy Rogers here is feedback/changes for your powerpoint
- Delete slide 1
- Insert new slide 2 " Compliant & Ethical Mass Tort Acquisition ", on this slide a. Left side "Shield Legal", underneath; i. Marketing & Acquisition Strategy Development & Deployment ii. All Executive Team, Marketing/Media Team, Analytics Team, Data Intelligence Team, Business Development Team iii. Focused business providing marketing and acquisition strategies for Litigation Partners ; Top Litigators in US focused on large inventories of Mass Torts & Class Actions (5000-20000 claimants per litigation) iv. Co-counsel firms work with Litigator Firms to provide additional/supplemental campaign budgets b. Right side "Tort Intake Professionals" i. Professional Intake and Post Acquisition Services ii. Legal Oversight Team (Chief Legal Officer and Supervising Lawyers), Executive Team, Intake Team, QA/Processing Team, Account Services Team, Onboarding and Retention Team (Post Acquisition Services), VSS Team (Victim Support Team of Certified Crisis Counselors/Social Workers) iii. Focused business is providing professional intake and post acquisition strategies for Litigation Partners
- Slide 3 will start with "Shield Legal Overview"
- Delete Slide 5, do NOT refer to our "Partners" as our "Clients"
- Change "History with Top Litigators" to "Top Litigation Partners Overview" (change on both slides)
- Delete slide 8
- Change 9, 10 and 11 to Seamless Marketing, Acquisition, Intake, & Onboarding Processes
@Andy Rogers only edit - Update "Who we are" to "Company Overviews"
@Cameron Rentch Done and I removed Draft from the file name
@Cameron Rentch I am going to kill your best friend
@Cameron Rentch Later, but I need pricing for Weisz Luxenberg for PFAS if they use our bases but they do NOT take Thyroid disease?
@Andy Rogers let me look at it and run some numbers....stay tuned
@Andy Rogers here is your info for Weitz lux for ranges. I would do 7000-7500/per
Baypoint numbers 235 signed = total spent = 250,000, 1063/per 233 signed lived on or near military bases = 250,000, 1072/per Of the 233, those diagnosed with acceptable cancers/disease = 36, 250,000, 7000/per Kidney cancer = 22 Ulcerative Colitis = 6 Liver Cancer = 0 Testicular Cancer = 0 Thyroid Cancer = 8
@Andy Rogers can you please email or Slack tony and team with names for the white board for tomorrow? Also dinner is set at Zuma, 7pm in PDR.
and reminder these are your costs/analysis for Baypoint
here is your info for Weitz lux for ranges. I would do 7000-7500/per
Baypoint numbers 235 signed = total spent = 250,000, 1063/per 233 signed lived on or near military bases = 250,000, 1072/per Of the 233, those diagnosed with acceptable cancers/disease = 36, 250,000, 7000/per Kidney cancer = 22 Ulcerative Colitis = 6 Liver Cancer = 0 Testicular Cancer = 0 Thyroid Cancer = 8
@Andy Rogers added suggesttions - can you clean up, let me know when ready
@Cameron Rentch Two things:
• I never heard back from you on Adam’s questions so nothing has been sent to Alystock • I see an email from Craig to you about Asbestos with Simmons, Hanley, Conroy. I am confused, as i thought you said to not sell to them. I have had them asking me for quite some time but because of Stollar I have left it alone.
@Andy Rogers I sent to Adam.
The Simmons is Baypoint send their powerport there.
@Andy Rogers emailed to you also
Andy
Need the following asap
- name of CA licensed attorney for advertising
- retainer and hippa
- distro list for contracts and escalations
- zip codes for targeting
Regards,
@Cameron Rentch Campaign Criteria:
• PNC is not represented by another attorney • PNC did not previously sign with another attorney • PNC MUST be female • PNC was incarcerated at Chowchilla Correctional Facility • PNC was sexually abused at Chowchilla Correctional Facility by a guard or person of authority • Abuse occurred in 2009 or LATER • PNC can provide the full last name of the abuser AND/OR • PNC can recognize a picture of the abuser AND/OR • PNC would recognize the name of the abuser if they heard it AND/OR • PNC filed a report at the time of the abuse AND can provide a detailed description of the abuser
Disqualify if: • PNC is already represented • PNC has a conviction for a sex crime • PNC previously signed with another attorney • PNC is not female • PNC was not at Chowchilla Correctional Facility • Abuse occurred before 2009 • Abuse was not sexual or does not involve skin-to-skin contact • PNC does not know the last name of abuser • PNC did not file a report at the time of the abuse and is unable to provide a description of theabuser • PNC is unable to recognize a picture of the abuser
@Cameron Rentch what are you asking for an update on? The Hart guys will have us everything tomorrow
@Andy Rogers did you send them the template intake for review?
@Andy Rogers where is everyone getting these rates from NH abuse?
@Cameron Rentch I used the pricing from the past 6 days and then made them a little bit higher
Then I have no idea how I fucked that one up.
lol ok I dont know where Craig got his pricing?
hopeing to get into 4500-5000 range, but think his ranges he put are way too low
I gave them pricing this morning. I am checking my Slack now
I gave them pricing of $4500 on NH.
I can update all the pricing:
Fill this in for me:
Chowchilla: Pennsylvania: Illinois: New Jersey: New Hampshire:
@Cameron Rentch
Chowchilla: 5500-6000 Pennsylvania: 6500-7000 (note current costs have spiked and are over 7500 at the moment) Illinois: IN SOL (under 41) = 6500-7000, take all ages = 4200-4500 New Jersey: 5500-6000 New Hampshire: (retest) targeting 4500-5000
Can you take a 30 second call from me? Literarily less than a full minute, promise
@Andy Rogers can you please send this to Larry and Fu for approval? (Larry sent the video form Ben). We want to get started with this today.
@Cameron Rentch both Larry and Fu have reviewed and approved
From Steve Hart
Attached is the Fee agreement and HIPAA- Hi-tech
Zip codes being consolidated and will sent in a moment.
Brian Eldridge, Partner at HME and cc on this email will be our CA license lawyer for the ads for the moment.
@Cameron Rentch Here is the rest of the data from the firm
Emails: Steven Hart Robert McLaughlin Brian Eldridge Morgan Forbes shart@hmelegal.com rmclaughlin@hmelegal.com beldridge@hmelegal.com mforbes@hmelegal.com
Shawn Collins Maragret Galka shawn@collinslaw.com mgalka@collinslaw.com
Zip Codes: Yuma, AZ
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- 85547 Monterey County, CA
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@Cameron Rentch Cameron Eric Nielsen paid us back in July. He got a message showing his campaign was open on July 30th for LA County Juv Hall and he has not got a single lead plus Malissa is showing it as a test.
The firm is asking for their money back as we have delivered to essentially everyone else in the campaign with D Miller.
Can you please turn it on and I will call the client and let them know there was some sort of “issue”.
@Andy Rogers I am working on the ELG data for AFFF. I cant find notes on what Jonathan wants in regards to Asbestos?
@Andy Rogers Attached is sample data from an existing DL Paraquat campaign. Items to note from the data:
Our current process with DiCello Levitt encompasses lead generation to fully onboarded claimant, taking the claimant through a variety of specific actions with defined benchmarks over a 120 day time period. However, the majority of the claimants are fully onboarded in less than 90 days.
The activities include the following:
• Intake and signed retainer documents completed • Quality assurance audit (2nd real time verification) • ID/physical verification of claimant using "Dentity" • Plaintiff Fact Sheet/Secondary interview completion (over 600 questions) • Medical records ordering and verification • Claimant outreach We have modeled a maximum 24% overall fallout rate, which mostly occurs during medical record review. However, as you can see we are currently at 18%. Our continued improvements with screening, intake and auditing are further reducing the fallout in this campaign.
Our staffing consists of 2 supervising lawyers and more than 20 client service professionals and legal assistants to perfom the post acquisition work.
Please note that QA signed and declined, as claimants we have signed and then identified during audit that do no qualify based on criteria and are therefore credited/removed from the budget.
We can track and provide this data with daily updates to The Meadow Law Firm and any additional financial partners.
We provide the fully onboarded claimant for Paraquat in the maximum range of 18500-19000. (Again these are maximum ranges and many times we are beating these ranges considerably, therefor offsetting the fallout percentages.
@Cameron Rentch I am going to read this, but are you okay with m e sharing this with them?
Read and review first, make sure you dont have any questions and fully understand.
@Cameron Rentch of coarse that is why I said I need to read it still. 🙂
Asbestos info coming n ext.. give me a moment
They would like historical data on our Asbestos campaigns:
• Qualifiers • Sample intake questionnaire • Do we know the percentages of Ling cancers, meso, etc • pricing • Any estimiate on volume They are going to provide us some detailed zip code targeting
@Cameron Rentch ^
- They sent us the qualifiers already (Jonathan sent their criteria)
- We sent Jonathan the sample intake, to which he replied with small suggested edits (I replied to him on this and said no problem)
- Currently we only accept lung cancer and mesothelioma. Meso's run approximately 1.5-2% of all sign ups, everything else is Lung cancer
- Based on criteria they provided (including the additional cancers, see email that I replied to), we can do at a rate of 3500-3700/per
- Volume = prior pacing was on target for 15 million annual, approx 4166 annual, 347 signed claimants per month. We can effectively scale to 28 million annually, approx 7777 signed claimants annual, 648 signed claimants per month.
- Note above volume only accounts for lung cancer and meso, as we are not currently accepting other diagnoses.
He just texted me with the following:
Est cost per signed Meso Lung Cancer Other cancer campaigns blended and separate with our qualifiers previously sent
Also need the same on AFFF. Greg said you are going to be happy with him.
@Cameron Rentch
We are talking about a blended rate of 3500-3700 for all case types and diagnosis (including meso). If only Lung and meso, 5000-5300
AFFF You have a the rates for CMO 28
if he wants prostate under 55, tell him we can do these at 750/per
@Cameron Rentch I know, I was sharing with you what he texted me.
For AFFF youll recall he was asking about if they took everything. I will let them know
@Andy Rogers I am still getting AFFF data and prior spend for Jonathan with some pivot tables. Stay tuned should have later today. Does he need any data on asbestos or not?
I am going to send him what you sent me and offer to get them more data if they need it
@Cameron Rentch
@Andy Rogers tell him after review 4000-4200 for all cases types with asbestos(take all)
since we have to take last 3 years only
if you want, send to me for review before you send to him
@Andy Rogers need to update the actual numbers to back out for volume. I was using 3600/per to get the totals. Also can you please clean up and make sure all font is same size and type, looks sloppy. Also include "I have some AFFF data with historic spend reporting being finsihed up. We will send this as soon as it is completed. Do you need this same type of data for Asbestos?
resend to me one more time please^ thank you
Doing it now. I really have no idea why it shows sloppy on your end. It’s not on mine
it becuase you likely are using outlook, and sending in rich test format, if you swicthed to google it would solve you problem 😬
@Andy Rogers watch chowchilla awko will be over udget by tomorrow, 60k thrugh yesterday, two more already today
@Cameron Rentch Did you see the email? Can I send to Jonathan?
@Andy Rogers whay arent you sending Kyle his weekly reporting?
@Cameron Rentch No excuse, Greg normally send them and I review. I just didnt realize he was sending only to me and not to them. I forgot
@Cameron Rentch FYI Patsy is asking if we will have numbers for her today. I see how busy you are but she is saying that we just want her to fail and that is why we are not getting her what she needs.
@Cameron Rentch can I plz have pricing for New Hampshire, Illinois and Pennsylvania
@Andy Rogers yes,
NH =
@Cameron Rentch I need to give pricing for a new client on Hair Relaxer. Below is the criteria they are looking for:
- Must not be currently represented by an attorney
- Must be able to identify products/brands used (Hair Relaxers Only)
- Must be able to recall start and stop date (if they have stopped)
- Must have used relaxers 5 or more applications per year for a minimum of 5 years (consistently 6-8 weeks on average) before Diagnosis
- If a death case – must have a strong corroborating witness regarding product usage 5a. Must be alive at the time of signing unless they have completed estate paperwork
- Must have a diagnosis date in 2010 or later, before age 45, with one of the following injuries:
- Uterine Cancer
- Endometrial Cancer
- Ovarian Cancer (must screen for talc usage- no recycled Talc clients!)
- Must know stage of cancer
- Must have some type of treatment
@Andy Rogers we are over budget considerably for AWKO now
@Andy Rogers please review this:
AFFF 8/2023-8/2024 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj2zpKEyp1FNWceuK5ekf-qNTjZjKOqqRK4bodwhMS8/edit?usp=sharing
Pivot table by cancer type, location, and role/occupation
Please see if this is what Jonathan is looking for...if yes, we can replicate in Asbestos
@Cameron Rentch I like it, are you okay with me sending
@Andy Rogers hair relaxer 4500-5000/per
@Andy Rogers about 33K remaining in AWKO, 7 contracts, we are signing about 3 to 4 per day
@Cameron Rentch I am sending Bryan and invoice for another $50,000 to get through the next couple days, he wants to have a full review with Mary Lui and me early next week before they say keep going
@Cameron Rentch Kiley Grombacher is at 77% on her NEC. I copied you on a message to her asking about the future of the campaign. I am also gonna text her. I am trying to secure a renewal but giving you a heads up so we don’t go over.
@Cameron Rentch Nielsen LA County is at cap please turn off. It was at 77% on Friday but got filled over the weekend. Thank you.
@Cameron Rentch Tuesday morning update. Here are the campaigns we are closing in on today - • Napoli -AFK - AFFF 30 remaining - 89% • Bowersox - BG - PA JH 16 remaining - 87% • Ghozland - BG - AFFF 42 remaining - 87% • Ghozland - BG - MD JH 7 remaining - 86% • Larry Jones - BG - Il JH 8 remaining - 84% • First Law Group - BG- MD JH 7 remaining - 84% • Meirowitz & Wasserberg - MD JH 30 remaining - 82% • Meirowitz & Wasserberg - Il JH 21 remaining - 79% • Ghozland - Walsh - Ozempic 15 remaining - 78% • AWKO - Grombacher NEC 5 remaining - 77% • Woods - Miller - LA County 3 remaining - 75% • Flanagan - BG - AFFF - 14 remaining - 72%
@Andy Rogers send invoice to AWD for 250K, NEC 5400/per. You'll have to locate the criteria sheet if anything needs to get on the invoice. I have already signed the MSA with them. Can't push it off any further.
reminder needs to get sent to the bp@gfoamllc.com I think, not sure who we sent to prior
also @Andy Rogers see notes on message to you and malissa re ibrahim and Flanagan, they were both NOT CMO 28 last time.
lastly, legal is reviewing Patsy prior agreement and drafting something to present to her. I will explain it to you once they reply and provide requirements. The only answr to her is "we are working on it and will have something to present as a solution later today".
I can not make the dachtal call today, so you are on your own there. Catch up late today
@Cameron Rentch Got it. I am working on it now. I got the Dachtal call that is why I set it without you but appreciate your attempt.
@Cameron Rentch I am on the Dachtal call now and it looks like we need to make some changes in the criteria. Of the 13 that we have signed, only 1 will be able to file. They are going to get me the changes they would like to for us to make. They are NOT mad at us at all, the love us but want “our professional” advice. They are asking me about questions on which advertising mediium we are using.
They look like they want to keep going but are hopeful we can get more efficient.
They are also very interested in Paraquat and NEC
@Andy Rogers I want you to know that from June 1 thru July 31 we have lost 107,207 with Wagstaff AWD on Paraquat.
If I look at August 1-Sept 1, we profited 92k. So we’re ultimately down 94k but August - Sept looked better since we got the criteria and processes better dialed in. We can’t afford this on NEC so if it goes south we are going to cut it very quickly
@Andy Rogers let me know if you want to have that dathal call this evening - best for me at 630. Tomorrow I can do 9:15am, 1130am or 330pm all PST
I can’t tonight. I have been laid up all day. Tomorrow at 9:15am is best time. I’ll let Steve know and he will send out a zoom. Thank you
@Cameron Rentch I also have a call with Sandy tomorrow about another $1m
@Andy Rogers locate the email on Dacthal with the updated questions/criteria they want and post it here to me. I cant locate
@Cameron Rentch they have NOT given that to me yet.
I told you verbally they were looking at avoiding cases where the mother is dead. Also thinking about some time frame but they never said when. This is the follow up to that
@Cameron Rentch This was sent early this morning:
Below are questions we’d like added to the Dacthal intake form. These additional questions are designed to gather more information up-front about two important issues which keep coming up in our follow up discussions with the clients, specifically: (a) the availability of the exposed mother (without whom we probably can’t prove exposure)----many of the current clients are in their 40s and 50s, and their moms have died; and (b) how the client knows it was Dacthal, and not some other chemical, that mom was exposed to.
@Cameron Rentch watching these today:
• AFG- Lakin - Levinson PA Juv hall Abuse Remaining: 7 - 91% • Larry Jones - BG IL Juv Hall Abuse Remaining 5 - 90% • DK Law LA County Abuse Remaining - 1 90% • Walsh - BG MD Juv Hall Abuse Remaining 15 - 90% • Napoli - Shkolnik -AFK AFFF Remaining - 29 - 89% • Ghozland - BG MD Juv Hall Abuse Remaining 6 - 88% • Bowersox - BG PA Juv hall Abuse Remaining 16 - 87% • Ghozland - BG AFFF Remaining - 87% • Joel Bieber Firm Video Gaming Sext Remaining 8 - 85% • First Law Group - BG MD Juv Hall Abuse Remaining - 7 84% • Meirowitz & Wasserberg MD Juv Hall Abuse Remaining 29 - 83% • Meirowitz & Wasserber IL Juv Hall Abuse Remaining 19 - 80% • Flanagan - BG AFFF Remaining 11 - 76% • Woods Law - Miller LA County Abuse Remaining 3 - 75% • Ghozland - Walsh Ozempic Remaining 18 - 73% • ACTS - DiCello - Flatiro Chowchilla Remaining 37 - 68% • Ghozland - BG NH Juv Hall Remaining 13 - 65% • Ibrahim Law AFFF Remaining 11 - 63% • ACTS - Levinson Chowchilla Remaining 13 - 60% • Forman - BG IL Juv Hall Abuse Remaining 27 - 58%
@Andy Rogers note all of BG MD campaigns have been paused with traffic at Todd’s request. Please get with Becker on where firms want to shift funds. Let’s review each firms thoughts BEFORE we move.
@Cameron Rentch for Hair Relaxer please see the attached criteria. Babin is asking if based on their criteria our pricing could be a little less. Long story short is he says he is getting them now at $2,000 but its slow. He know we are not cheap but asking what we could do. I quoted like $4,000 - $4,500
@Cameron Rentch I just forwarded you an email from the Dachtal guys. I guess they are waiting on something from you. Here is what the email said:
Andy:
Thank you for your email. FYI, we have received your invoice.
It remains the hope of our team that there are good Dacthal cases out there, and that we would continue to work with Shield to find them.
So, we’re hoping that Cam will answer the question I posed last week (which I asked on behalf of the team): What would we get for our $100,000?
Cam said he would thank about that question, and get back to me, but he has not. We understand that your guys are very busy, as we all are, but are hopeful Cam will get us that answer as soon as possible.
Thanks very much, Andy.
Shawn
@Andy Rogers they were to send me the report I asked for, haven't seen it. please have them send it
re minder you were to send them full reporting, they add a colum identofying which cases are best value and whicj were declined
@Cameron Rentch I forgot I had a doctor appointment this morning.
Please check your email as I just re-forwarded the email with the talk track and one sheets from Ashley.
Check your email sent at 7:52am your time.
@Cameron Rentch Attached is the spreadsheet for ACTS - AFFF
You will see that they are currently at • 112 Retainers delivered • 91 still active - • 21 closed - 21.25% fall out To get them to the standard of 11% fallout we need to deliver them 12 more signed retainers.
Please let me know if you need anything else on this.
thank you perfect. I am going to get them a few more.
@Cameron Rentch Where you able to see the email I forwarded you this morning or do you still need me to move all of that to Slack
If you can post the files in slack it would be helpful thank you
Doing it now. I just got back from the doctor
Do not know. They ran a shit ton of tests. Took all of my blood (at least it felt that way). But they sent me home so nothing dire
> @Cameron Rentch
> I am attaching the two “documents” that Ashley put together for the Mass Tort Minds that we discussed, I HAVE NOT, NOR WILL I send these to anyone until we have agreed.
>
> Below is kind of an overview of how we can explain this to our key partners. I would NOT give them anything or pitch them, but rather explain and get their thoughts.
>
> Please let me know your suggestions:
>
> Mass Tort Minds
>
> Designed to shape the future of mass tort litigation. The goal is to help our Founders be at the Epicenter of everything happening in Mass Torts. By positioning you in front of firms looking to make money in the space. Positioning you as a Key Partner they will want to refer business to, and as someone that is in the KNOW. You will be provided with numerous speaking opportunities to help control and shape the narrative that you want out int the market.
>
> What is MassTortMinds? A new members-only network, designed to empower law firms in the expanding mass tort space. We aim to create proper channels for profitability and growth as the industry evolves.
>
> The Founders Circle/Competitive Advantages:
> • Positioning as a key referral partner in the mass tort community
> • Building thought leadership / speaking opportunities
> • Enhance social presence and stay up to date on market trends
> • Exclusive partnership opportunity
> • Scalability = more cases = more revenue
> • Early access to industry insights and networking opportunities
> • Curated experiences/events to help position your firm
> Additional Value props:
> Deploy capital / Funding piece (investors)
> Event services
> Unique luxury F1 event
>
> MassTortMinds Model: MTM will connect firms with a wealth of expert knowledge + valuable resources, strategically leveraging our extensive partnerships to deliver continuous education, referrals, and marketing support
>
> Tentative Framework: 6 exclusive events a year (3 sponsors each) + 6 educational forums + 1 annual conference yearly
> ---
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> MTM Launch Event - Reference Second F1 Invite Creative
> Luxury Launch Event (valued at $15K a guest) compd for Founders –
>
> Launch Weekend Highlights:
> 1. Comprehensive overview of MassTortMinds’ mission and strategy
> 2. Preview of MTM events
> 2. Detailed explanation of member benefits and growth opportunities
> 3. Networking with industry leaders and potential partners
> ---
> Why will firms want Membership? By-product of interest, not end goal. Memberships offer a way to control overflow - introducing limited # of sponsors per event/forum
> Accessibility / Education
> -Inclusive Round Tables and Seminars: We will offer a range of educational events that cater to diverse learning styles, ensuring that all participants can engage meaningfully with the content.
> Community Engagement: Through outreach efforts, we aim to raise awareness about the importance of accessibility in legal education and practice, advocating for inclusive policies and practices.
> Networking Opportunities: Members can meet and build relationships with other influential individuals.
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> -Exclusive Events: Access to private parties, luxury experiences, and social gatherings that are not open to the general public (satellite events following existing conference schedule)
> Cultural Engagement: Involvement in community initiatives, often promoting social causes. If MTM choose to host/own charity events in honor of founding members etc
> Status and Influence: Membership can confer a sense of prestige and social standing within a particular community or society.
> Future Mentorship Programs: We facilitate mentorship opportunities that connect seasoned professionals with emerging talents, fostering a culture of learning and support within the industry.
> Member Perks: Members will also receive discount on future conference registrations, discounted hotel rates etc- they will fill your annual conference seats**
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> Member Cost? $1,000/month or $10K up front annual commitment
@Cameron Rentch @Greg Owen @Malissa Monday morning update:
Need immediate action: • AWKO - Chowchilla - Need to pause until they get back to me • Van - Chowchilla - She is letting me know today about more money. She has money on account for overage but trying to get more allocated to Chowchilla • Wagstaff - Paraquat - Working on this. Spoke with Carter this more, they want to do morre but Casey is SO FRUSTRATED with our reporting and testing • Ibrhim - AFFF - Should be on pause as I am trying to get money. Patsy was working this one • Larry Jones - Ill Juv Hall - Not adding more money Close to limit: • AFG-Lakin - Levinson - PA - Working on renewal, 6 - 7 left on delivery • Flannigan - AFFF - 6 left • Bowersox - PA - 15 - 16 left • Onder - LA County - 4 - 5 left • Woods - LA County - 3 left • MieroWitz & Wassenberg - Ill Juv Hall - 18 - 19 • Ghozland - NH - 7 - 8 left • Forman - Ill Juv 19 - 20 • Goldenfarb - LA County - 12 - 13 left
@Andy Rogers please reply asap:
- AWKO - Chowchilla - Need to pause until they get back to e - They have agreed to take overage, how many can we sign so we do not have to move any leads
- Wagstaff - Paraquat - are we able to over-deliver, I do not want to have to pull retainer and move leads. How many over can we sign?
- Dachtal - I need reporting asap, do you understand exactly what I need? This should take less than 20 min to get from them?
@Cameron Rentch
- AWKO - was supposed to talk to me last week on this. We are currently already 14 over which they will pay. I am just trying to NOT go too far. They have given me no reason to believe they do not re-up. I just feel I am running a little blind on this.
- Wagstaff - I have spoken with Carter twice already this morning and just copied you on a text. AS soon as I get an answer I will tell you. Carter said that CAsey is very strong on Paraquat but just all over him.
- Dachtal - so I am sure, I have send them an updated report last week asking for details on each. I have not seen them reply yet. I am calling Shawn now.
@Andy Rogers do you realize that HME is at 262000 spent?
@Cameron Rentch so Greg and Malissa were working off of the budget of 30 retainers that they got from you. Because of that I am sure this is what caused this. I can work with them on getting all of that paid. But we might need to slow or stop until I get that resolved.
And no I didn’t realize that and yes I know it’s my fault
you can not go off of retainer counts. We have talked about this six ways to sunday
- Daily dashboard
- Plus channels
- "counts" are completely irrelevant we don't have a cost per ye since things have been changing.
- every day, the numbers are reciled and accurate in dashboard Process should look like this
Every day, you should check your customer dashboards + slack channel against funds received to calculate remaining budget and/or approximate remaining counts Every Monday when reporting goes out, you should have the summary from the report that goes out to check against total budget If this process gets followed it is impossible to go over
Not upset, just follow this process 💪
I know Cam. And I thought I was on top of all of it and I flat out missed this one.
I have been checking Slack all day, sending you updates and I missed this one
assuming you want me to pause on this for now
@Andy Rogers please read and call this firm immediately to straighten out. Reach out to brian to confirm all funds have been rec;'d...
Sheet shows 200k rec'd, and that we did NOT get the last 50k payment. Please handle yourself
We have received a total of $200,000. Patsy confirmed the “top six”.
I emailed them asking for a number to call them.
@Cameron Rentch Just got off the phone with them. I sent you a text. It will be fine. Patsy and Greg sorta fucked this up but I have them back in line.
If we can still do the $3500 for all, they look like they are willing to spend another $150k. But they only want to work with me. The confusion really was that Patsy had explained to them that they get everything for their money not that we have backed into a price so they were confused how we spent $50,000 and they only git 3 for that.
@Cameron Rentch Aylstock is not going to continue on NEC right now.
Going to let me know by Friday on Chowchilla. But they are sending me some referal partners
@Andy Rogers questions:
- AWKO NEC (AWKO ONLY) is at 21 signed, 94500 thru EOD yesterday (9/17), assuming 1 remaining to be signed, please confirm 100K budget
- AWKO NEC (Grombacher) is at 20 signed, 90000 thru EOD yesterday (9/17) assuming 2 remaining to be signed, please confirm 100K budget
- AWKO CHOW is at 40 signed, 240,000 thru EOD yesterday (9/17) PLUS 4 signed 9/18 (+ 24,000), for a total budget of 264,000. Please confirm total funds sent
- Ibrahim ELG, I need to you explain. We already ran the last 50K at the CMO 28 criteria. Are you asking to move forward at the NON CMO 28 (3500/per) or asking something different? Please clarify. Also system shows they have only sent us a total of 200K, with an open invoice for 50K. Please be clear on exactly what you are asking
- HME - Dacthal - I still have no reporting, not sure why this has not been sent? it should take them 10 minutes to send to us
- Meadow owes us for VSS interviews for gaming. We can give them time, but I need to make sure I am communicating to Marc so there are no surprises. Let's chat tomorrow am
@Cameron Rentch AWKO NEC (AWKO ONLY): • Confirmed. $100,000 budget received. Not renewing. AWKO NEC (Grombacher): • Confirmed. $100,000 budget received. Not renewing. AWKO CHOW: • $200,000 received out of $264,000 total budget. • Paused at client’s request due to new co-counsel. • Will discuss settlement for overage tomorrow. Ibrahim ELG: • Clarification: Requesting to proceed with $3,500/case non-CMO 28 campaign if more funds are sent. • Miscommunication resolved: Client misunderstood pricing structure. HME - Dacthal: • Resolving reporting delay with Shawn and Steve. • Issue: Next wave of funds already spent based on promised payment. • Need to discuss this situation further. Meadow (VSS interviews for gaming): • Misunderstanding: Client thought costs were covered by Levinson. • They’ve committed to pay but currently lack funds. • Expecting $17M annual funding soon; payment anticipated once received.
@Cameron Rentch Please see the email reply from Jeff Huff this morning. I need you to either provide your thoughts and feedback or it would be much easier to have a quick three-way call and I can document everything and finish this off with Jeff.
@Cameron Rentch Sean Jimenez would like us to cap the inital spend they sent us at $50,000. He is going to discuss with Goldwater and with Miller that they are stopping now as they are getting more information and looking to make future decisions. Is that okay on our end? The money cam from Sean and the invoice is signed by Sean.
Yes tell Greg and team for cap purposes
@Cameron Rentch PLEASE SEE ASAP
This is from Eliot’s group. Once this is done we can get funding!!!!!
Do you want me to take a stab at it or will you?
Andy
@Andy Rogers this references ONLY Il Juv Abuse - what are all camapigns they are investing in immediately? Post each one
@Andy Rogers so Illinois, AFFF and Meso? Who are the working with on each?
BG for Ill Nations for AFFF Not sure on Meso yet
@Andy Rogers here is the insurance certificate for DLA
@Andy Rogers can you please get me registered for MTMP. Not sure I’ll attend much but want to be registered.
@Andy Rogers need help, see if you can reach this firm. They have not replied since Sept 20th, regardless of continuing if they want data pished over they need to reply.
Asbestos - Vogelzang Law - Vogelzang Law - Shield Legal Assigned to: Dwight Thomas Start Date: 8/27/24 Original Estimated Completion Date: 9/10/24 Revised Estimated Completion Date: 9/19/24 Days Behind Original Estimated Completion Date: 9 Update: Campaign Complete. Still awaiting confirmation from David from Vogelzang. Emailed 9/17 & 9/20
@Cameron Rentch Here is what I am monitoring today: I will be adding numbers on the right column from Slack as they are delivered.
@Cameron Rentch ALERT POTENTIAL new business.
Parafinczuk Wolf just got about $7 - $8M from Huff and they are looking at a couple of dockets with us. I am still waiting on their info for Bard Powerpoint however they are also interested in pricing and volume for Hair Relaxer and Bair Hugger. I am attaching their criteria and intake here so you can have a look.
I have a meeting set up with them next week at MTMP so hopefully you can join that if you would like.
They are sending me AFFF and PowerPort within the next half hour
@Andy Rogers questions
Hair relaxer, aside from specific states listed, there is no "cut off" year for diagnosis. Can you please get an answer on "year of diagnosis" accepted for claimants in all other states?
Bair Hugger I am looking at criteria and prior costs, give me 5 min
@Cameron Rentch AFFF and Bard PowerPort. Note the AFFF includes PFAS
@Cameron Rentch Getting answer on the Hair Relaxer, they did just send me this as they updated the Bair Hugger this monring.
@Andy Rogers For AFFF & PFAS, as you know we run these campaigns separately. Please provide accepted diagnoses.
For Bard, most people do NOT know what type of device they have. Currently we accept "Bard, Angiodynamics and other". They will need to pull medical records to determine the device type. Can you review this with them and confirm they can accept this criteria?
@Andy Rogers see notes for Hair relaxer too above^^^
@Cameron Rentch For Hair Relaxer they currently do NOT have a cut-off year. We do not have a cut off year at this time.
@Andy Rogers Hair Relaxer = 3300-3800/per
Bair Hugger = TBH we have not run this since July 2023. We would like to test 100k, with a target of 2500-3000/per. This would allow us to have real time figures before large scale deployment
@Cameron Rentch ALERT for Sean and Daniel. I asked Sean for what you and I spoke about yesterday and here is his reply:
Hi Andy,
Here is what we are looking for:
• List of all torts the past X number of years (bigger sample the better). For each tort, please specify:
◦ Lead Cost
◦ Signed Claimant Cost (CAC)
◦ Fall off Rate
◦ Average Settlement
◦ Length from acquisition to settlement
◦ How many won, how many lost.
◦ For those that lost, why?
◦ All areas, toxic, sexual abuse, et
A simple spreadsheet of the above would be AMAZING!
Very Appreciative,
@Cameron Rentch Just got off my second call with Para Wolf. We are meeting in Vegas next week and should hopefully get ’er done!
@Cameron Rentch Here are the campaigns that I am monitoring today:
@Cameron Rentch here is the link to it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sQIemcguHcOiz_eErEe7dpejJDQ-zfnJkTyryDPLKSA/edit?usp=sharing
@Andy Rogers talking with Brent Carson, we need to run updated reporting for him and ensure his budgets are depleted across the board. He thinks he is owed a few chowchillas
@Andy Rogers let me know if this works for Sean
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11bPAFrRaXomdF_qUh4WaHAumAkBrAfgDWlG3B7hBmDQ/edit?usp=sharing
I think you should share the excel doc you created with Becker that shows returns etc as well, but update to reflect numbers. You can also add other torts here and I can fill in the blanks as needed
Pardon the dumb question, but which spreadsheet are you referring to? @Cameron Rentch
you and jon created some crazy excel sheet that you used when explaining to investing firms how much their return would be
@Cameron Rentch Please give me access to the sheet so I can add to i t
@Cameron Rentch Monday morning update on active and delivery
@Cameron Rentch is there a way to look at the LA County campaigns that are all connected to Miller and see what we can do about filling as quick as possible?
I have him ready to do a webinar on Chowchilla but there are still like 4 or so campaigns that haven’t even started yet.
I understand why, just asking if because they are all with him if that can help the speed. If not I understand
@Andy Rogers the issue is that each campaogn still operates separately, and traffic is slow with elections.
@Andy Rogers FYI...don't want you to get blind-sided. Marc and I are shutting down Brandlytics and have transferred all employees to Shield. Ryan is asking for commissions now that he can not get any distributions, although the company has never been profitable. It is not unfair, however, moving forward since all Shield maximum payment is 5%, so you guys need to be aligned on this.
@Andy Rogers I need info about the NY campaign with Hatch Rose
@Andy Rogers can you get me Eliots email address he is using at Storm law? I need to send him bunch of stuff
Yes, I am driving home from lunch with Howard and Brittany. As soon as I get home.
see if you can call him I cant remember it, I sent him text bu he hasnt replied
Derek@stormlawpartners.com and cc admin@stormlawpartners.com please. Just finishing a meeting I’ll be free in a couple hours if anything pops up
@Andy Rogers FYI - for this coming week, all Miller campaigns are ONLY active, I will evaluate traffic this week and resume/turn on others.
@Cameron Rentch I have been working with Sean Mulkeen. He has a client that wants to do $200k in PA Juv Hall. THey are a referral from LCA. They want us to give them a 72 hour return window if they cany reach someone. They are willing to agree that they will agree to call the signed retainers within three hours.
I have already told Sean that we dont do that. I have also told him that we would be willing to call people back as a courtesy if they cant reach them but he is asking me to please see if you will agree to a 72 hour window.
@Andy Rogers no we cant do that. He needs to know that they should epect a 20-25% fall out rate, and that they should let us do their secondary interviews as it reinforces the claimant "buy in" and gives them lower fall out over all. We do NOT have a policy on reaching people, nor will we.
@Cameron Rentch I am trying to help Sean but it is futile. He is now saying that he cant get a break, that everyone else gives 30 days, blah blah blah. I offered to speak to the firm for him and he wont let me. Says it will not help. He wants to fight with me on everything
@Andy Rogers schedule a call with me you and Shawn so we can discuss this. Please don’t do it on Slack. I can be available in about 30 minutes.
@Cameron Rentch Can I sign this or do you want to?
@Cameron Rentch On NEC can we run the following and pricing:
• The injured child must have been: ◦ Born on or after 1/1/2008 ◦ Born prematurely (ie before 37 weeks’ gestation) ◦ Diagnosed with NEC ◦ Given formula or fortifier (not Prolacta) before being diagnosed with NEC • Additionally, the client should not be working with any other law firm.
may come down a bit after elections but def been way more expensive
@Cameron Rentch here you go I added the new ones on the bottom https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LOKZ8Weni2yPLqGXTMCI5-GvExn3mipk/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103735641617721437324&rtpof=true&sd=true
@Andy Rogers will update in next 20 min
@Andy Rogers are all of your CA juv firms in 7500-8000/range?
start getting in range please 7500-8000, also we are going to have to increase rates for the next 10 days, let your firms know. If they want to pause until after they can but need to let us know by EOD today. Increases go into effect later today.
7500-8000, but our political increase says up to 20% temporarily, so this will go into affect by EOD
FYI levinson told me he doesnt care if the cases ar 12-13k each, hes in
@Andy Rogers can you check calendar and join with us really quick on google meet
Order a new fing phone!!!! @Andy Rogers
That has not started yet so I think I missed it. I will check
5 leads collected yesterday for Kugel @Andy Rogers
@Cameron Rentch this was sent from Malissa this morning to them and you were copied on it
Hi Rachel,
Once the tests are complete, you’ll get sent any sign ups we’ve had. The agents have been working through leads this week and you should start seeing some contracts soon. If you haven’t gotten anything by Monday, let me know and I’ll check with the team to make sure everything is transmitting correctly.
Thanks,
Malissa Phillips Sales Operations Manager
Cell:
@Andy Rogers it has been live for 4 days
That is why I thought it was not. I guess Greg and I missed it. I am waiting to hear from her now
also @Andy Rogers ok. Also, we need to hit pause on any new budgets on LA Juv hall for time being. We can discuss later. Steer to chowchilla for now. I am trying to see what (if anything) we may be able to do with LA county foster care but do not mention to anyone until we have clarity.
Sounds good. I am pushing that way anyhow. @Cameron Rentch
@Andy Rogers did you have greg email the Kugel firm or did you call them?
Called no answer so sent email.
We want to inform you of some temporary market conditions affecting advertising costs and present you with options for your ongoing campaign.
Currently, we’re experiencing two significant market factors:
- Increased competition in the LA County Juvenile Hall cases sector
- A surge in political advertising spending, which is driving up premium media costs Rest assured, we remain committed to maintaining our high standards and will continue using only our proprietary, high-quality advertising channels rather than switching to lower-quality alternatives like affiliate marketing.
Given these market conditions, we need your immediate decision on one of the following options:
Option 1: Temporary Pause • Pause your campaign until after the elections • Resume at current pricing ($7,400 - $8,000) • Maintain your existing rate structure Option 2: Continue Without Interruption • Keep your campaign active • Accept a temporary 15-20% price adjustment for approximately two weeks • Return to standard pricing after this period Both options remain economically viable, but we want to provide you with the flexibility to choose what works best for your business.
Required Action: Please respond today with your preferred option so we can ensure uninterrupted service aligned with your preferences.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. We appreciate your continued trust in our services.
@Cameron Rentch Do you have any data on Dublin? I am trying to find something I can use that I can show on that as a way to get excited about Chowchilla. I thought that it was settled but I cant find anything online.
@Andy Rogers it is not public yet, will be announced after elections
@Cameron Rentch I just forwarded you the docuSign NDA from ELG
@Cameron Rentch I have a monster opportunity that I need your help with. I can explain later. Plz call when you can
@Andy Rogers
@Cameron Rentch Please see the link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r1aWijkY9sgx9cGQdy5RrZ-kEKKzcXH0/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103735641617721437324&rtpof=true&sd=true
This is everything we have for LA County that still has budget
@Cameron Rentch This is the criteria from Lanier. Can you give me pricing on this?
Product: - Must have used brand-name (Pfizer) Depo-Provera (or an “authorized generic” version of Depo-Provera manufactured by Pharmacia & Upjohn Company LLC, Greenstone LLC, A-S Medication Solutions, Prasco Laboratories, or Preferred Pharmaceuticals Inc.) at least twice.
OR - Must have used Depo-SubQ Provera at least twice. Injury: -
Must have been diagnosed with meningioma after use of Depo-Provera or Depo-SubQ Provera.
Geographics: - Most preferred states are California and Massachusetts, which enable generic manufacturers to be sued. Do not seek or accept cases from Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee because of very short statute of limitations or without Discovery Rule provisions and also decline cases from Texas (pharmaceutical immunity statute).
Time Frame: - Depo-Provera entered the US market in 1992. So, use must be subsequent to that. Use that long ago will be very hard to prove.
Ideally we want cases with use in this century. Early use also has statute of repose problems in many states.
Did you get this? Is this what you asking about?
@Cameron Rentch I spoke with Darren Miller about the Foster Care cases and he is fine taking them, especially if that can get the per cost average back down. Based on what I am seeing in our numbers it looks like it can help. Anyhow, he does not want to have to get a new joint retainer agreement with everyone. He is asking me if I can send him a message via email that asks him to accept them and he will reply with a yes. Does that work for you?
Message would look something like this: Darren, following up from our call. This message is to confirm that with your LA County Juvinelle campaign for you and your partners we are accepting opportunities in which the plaintiff as sent into the LA County Foster care system and was sexually assaulted/abused…. These are being accepted by the other lead firms in the litigation. With your approval we will continue wuth the current retainer agreements you have given us…
I think he should sent the email to us and instruct us to accept.
@Andy Rogers ^ however, his retainer agreement that claimants sign does NOT reflect “Los Angeles county foster care” so signing claimants to them would be invalid. We had to get all new retainer agreements from ACTS
Never mind, I can’t find it. I have to send later.
Okay, I told Darren I will send him something shortly
@Andy Rogers FYI this is the guts of the email I was going to send earlier that I sent to Danny re language in retainers
Danny
I spoke with Doug last week and he investigated and confirmed that we can accept LA County Foster care abuse claims and that these will essentially be valued as the same. We have a few firms that are willing to accept these, pay for the advertising and place with you in their current inventories.
Do we need a SEPARATE retainer agreement?
I believe we do and would need language similar to: "against Los Angeles County for the injury or loss suffered by Client arising out of sexual abuse while in Foster Care in Los Angeles County". If so, can you please get us updated retainer agreements for the following firms:
also, FYI yesterday did NOT work out well for costs, ranges to clients of 12500-16500/per. Hopefully today is a bit better
@Andy Rogers be prepared to talk with your clients, FYF and Miller, Sean - yesterday Juv hall costs were crazy high.Not much more I can do that what we are doing.
@Cameron Rentch Cameron, I just finished a call with Ghozland as he wants to spend some more money before the end of the year however in doing an audit of his spend and his campaigns it looks like we still have over $1.2M of his money that we have yet to spend.
The main issues are he still has $675,000 left for AFFF with Howard Nations. His last payment on that was in July however it looks like he suddenly got shut off in August and we missed it.
The other two big numbers are in New Jersey and Pennsylvania as it look like they have yet to start however they were paid in August.
I am attaching a spreadsheet for you to review if you would like but here are the pertinent numbers: • New Jersey - Funds Provided: $360,000 Budget Remaining : $360,000 • Pennsylvania - Funds Provided: $180,000. Budget Remaining: $180,000 • Ozempic: Funds Provided: $150,000. Budget Remaining: ($1,750) • New Hampshire: Funds Provided: $200,000 Budget Remaining: $7,500 • Maryland: Funds Provided: $200,000 Budget Remaining: $42,000 • LA County: Funds Provided: $0 Budget Remaining: ($119,100) • Illinois: Funds Provided: $100,000. Budget Remaining: ($2,400) • Gaming add Funds Provided: $200,000 Budget Remaining: ($64,000) • Nations AFFF. Funds Provided: $700,000. Budget Remaining: $675,000 • BG AFFF Funds Provided: $950,000. Budget Remaining: $158,300 • Camp Lejuine. Funds Provided: $200,000 Budget Remaining: $1,000
Unbelievable @Andy Rogers I don’t think so though. The last round of his firefighting foam was at the higher rates and we never updated his actual costs so his account is correct but his cost does not.
His first round of firefighting foam was old criteria. The second round was new criteria so lower amount of cases higher cost those costs never got updated.
But the cap is correct based on the updated cost
Maybe so but he still has it got a retainer since august 1st
When we got his second round of funds, we did it at $7500 per not whatever it was on the prior room
I’ll go back through it again, but I am so incredibly incredibly frustrated of this stuff continually happening. It’s unbelievable.
You are I charge of turning campaigns on and off. It is not like we over spent. If anything we have underspent.
I am frustrated as well.
Andy stop being reactionary. You were responsible for managing your customers budget. That’s the end of the story we should have found this out months ago in the paid versus spent that we’ve been working on that I said has to be 100% accurate.
Regardless, I am going to go back and look at it. I’m going to rerun the numbers and I’m going to update the last day triple F account numbers inside of the dash because again they are not accurate. I will then get a complete list from accounting of all payments.
@Andy Rogers here are the correct numbers
Nations Ghozland 700k payments 688500 delivered (note gap in July 3 is where we restarted with CMO 28, Ryan never applied the accurate figures). I updated on the sheet in yellow to reflect what is accurate and will have updated in dash https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mCLiYbbFkmlSW-2LYpBKcUOLDzcQAx0yUp8FHYoWdgQ/edit?usp=sharing
BG Ghozland 800k payments 791700 delivered https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Us9tc8sSW9cMcseS4yBp3T-PWO88H74LQI17gBXC__g/edit?usp=sharing
Ghozland payments Firefoam Ghozland Law Firm Firefoam $ 100,000 8/16/23 Ghozland Law Firm Firefoam $ 100,000 11/21/23 Ghozland Law Firm AFFF $ 300,000 - 1/8/24 Ghozland Law Firm AFFF $ 100,000 - 2/29/24 Ghozland Law Firm Firefoam $ 500,000 5/1/24 Ghozland Law Firm AFFF - Nations $ 200,000 7/19/24 Ghozland Law Firm AFFF - BG $ 200,000 7/19/24 Total AFFF = 1,500,000
BG = 800000, Nations = 700000
@Cameron Rentch When I ran my report I totally MISSED this:
I knew there was NO way we missed it like this 🙂.
@Cameron Rentch I have a firm that would like to know if we could sell them RoundUp leads, not retainers. I wonder if we have leads that can be sold to them that meet this criteria and whatever your thoughts. Pretty broad criteria…
Andy: • Victim applied Roundup Weed killer 10 times or more at least one year prior to diagnosis • Diagnosed 2000 or later(including Death Cases) • Diagnosed with NHL or subtype as well as Multiple Myeloma (is acceptable) • We want the full name, cell phone and full address (including zip code) • Also a description box • Describe your use of Roundup and Provide you Diagnosis • I would want it to start ASAP, latest Tuesday. If we can agree on Lead cost, start with 25k.
@Andy Rogers sent you updates on your email
please look for a message from Tony - it is for reporting to be sent to Miller...
FYI, call went well with LegaFi this morning. Ill fill you in later
@Cameron Rentch Quick question, just got a message from Sandy. She still has almost $500,000 left on her AFFF campaign with Howard. She is asking if there is anything that can be done to speed that up. I believe she is getting “hudging” from Howard to make sure she has everything before the end of the year
@Andy Rogers I had everything paused a little bit because of the elections resuming this week
@Cameron Rentch if we were to take in say a couple million for two sex abuse dockets. They can be new or existing but we wanted to make sure we had some runway. Which ones would you suggest?
@Cameron Rentch let me know when you might have few minutes. We can go from there
@Cameron Rentch Cam, I just got off a call with LegaFi and they were a little upset about only getting one case this past week and a half.
I let them know that part of that was because we had to make sure we didn’t over shoot the budget as they only have $50,000 left.
They are sending us another $50,000 right now so that we have $100,000 to get them through the end of next week and will do more after that. So please adjust according 🙂
Thank you.
Ok I have had their traffic off since your prior message asking me to slow it down.
@Cameron Rentch Just an FYI, I gave Sean a hot prospect that I got. I am going to try all that I can to see if I can help him.
I need you to get with DAN Levinson. Explain what it is that we want to do with Falkowitz in regards to NDA and noncompete. Etc. You can ask JON Becker for a copy of his. Get it all over to DAN and also put a call into Falkowitz so that he does not think we are blowing him off. Please do today. Thank you.
@Cameron Rentch a couple of questions
1) can you please reply to my message to Dan Levinson from yesterday? I connected with Gary and told him we did not forget about him and that we would have something to him if not today then by end of week and he is fine.
2) for Depo-Provera did you really quote BayPoint through Craig $3,400 - $3,740?
they are only requiring 2 shots and understand the issues with the generic/brand stuff
@Cameron Rentch Let me know if you want to connect with Tony on this or if this is something you would like me to handle.
From AWKO: Happy Thanksgiving! It was fun hanging out in Cabo!
I wanted to see if your team could help with locating the attached list of Chowchilla clients. We have not ever been able to reach them since receiving their contracts, but not for lack of trying. We have also run TLOs on everyone to see if they have new contact information, but still no luck in reaching them.
@Cameron Rentch I have messaged Levinson twice now about the NDA for Falcowitz. Before I message again, do you know if perhaps he is out of town or somehting?
@Cameron Rentch That was Casey Gard. We just had a 20 minte conversation and he said he would like to have a quick call with you and me, in the spirit of figuring out how we can move forward on new business. I have his cell and he has asked me to call him back with you. Do you have some availability?
I know, he told me that at the end of our call and that is why I walked over there to see if you just wanted to jump on with him
They need to send new MSA. Carter knows what we need to do. I’ve sent him the terms.
@Andy Rogers just called Casey back. They need to still talk with Wagstaff about the new terms of engagement (casey wasnt aware that their team had not talked with Wagstaff yet). He will circle back later today. I also sent Carter a text. Ball is in their court for the time being.
@Andy Rogers I am ordering from True food what do you want?
@Cameron Rentch the chopped salad please with grass fed steak
@Cameron Rentch I am going to suggest Arkansas and Nevada. I can give you a lot more details but for now:
Arkansas - Here is the gist of what the new law does in terms of the statute of limitation for sex abuse in Arkansas:
- Extended Statute of Limitations: a. Previously, victims had until their 21st birthday or three years from discovering the abuse-related injury to file a claim. b. The new law extends this age cap to 55 years old or three years from discovery, whichever is later.
- Two-Year Revival Window: a. From February 1, 2022, to January 31, 2024, adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse can file civil claims, regardless of when the abuse occurred. b. This allows for claims that were previously barred by the statute of limitations to be revived. Nevada - Under the revised statutes, individuals who have been subjected to child sexual abuse or exploitation in Nevada now have until their 38th birthday (which includes the age of majority, 18, plus an additional 20 years) to file a civil lawsuit
@Cameron Rentch I just sent you a long write up on them. I have included LDS because there is a presumption of an MDL nationwide for LDS and I would require that they take all.
@Andy Rogers
AFFF Thyroid disease/Ulcerative Colitis Analysis
9/1-12/2
279 contracts at 7500/per = 2,092,000
Less 194 Thyroid = 24,611 per Less 24 Ulcerative colitis = 8203 per
Less Thyroid and Ulcerative Colitis (218) = 34,295/per
So I am clear does that mean we only had 61 cancer cases?
@Cameron Rentch I am on with Sean, let me know if you can join for a few. He s aksing
@Andy Rogers just saw this been head down in data
I will join from here too much working on at the moment
https://www.levylaw.com/nevada-juvenile-detention-center-sexual-abuse/ Levy is doing Nevada
I am happy to share some commission with you on these guys as I need your help. He talks over me on some of this
@Andy Rogers go set up conf room for the wagstaff call
@Andy Rogers I am now thinking we just charge them 20-22k per under their current process
ask Chandler if he thinks that is ok...
@Andy Rogers some items I need answers for:
- The AWKO retainer says NON FL, which gives me the assumption that there is a FL retainer somewhere as well.
- If AWKO is the firm listed on ads and landing pages, they are going to have to submit everything to FL bar for approval. I would suggest we get approval to use Grombacher firm instead
- I need answers asap before we launch
@Andy Rogers we need budgets asap for:
We need some testing budgets asap so we know what costs will be. Want litigating firms to be DL, BG, ACTS, not sure if Sandy wants to do any of her own in Nevada.
Illinois Foster Care Abuse Nevada Juv Hall Abuse
Also, find out from BG if for Michigan they will open up and take all ages again for juv hall abuse...
Well if I could use Darren Miller I have money
Also Jon said to move the Maryland Rhine / BG to Illinois foster care as a test. I am on with Jon right now
Sorry that is Walsh not Rhine. And it is $180k. He said we could use $100 of it
awesome thats perfect, have him get us a retainer ASAP.
He said you can use the Walsh Illinois retainer and you can use that one
It should be a generic sex abuse for Illinois
I can conference you in if you want to talk to him real quick
@Cameron Rentch For the VGA campaign with Aylstock you can use
Bradley/Grombacher LLP, 31365 Oak Crest Dr. Suite 240 Westlake Village, CA91361
@Cameron Rentch attached are the intakes from Lanier on Depo & Button
@Andy Rogers I dont need criteria, I need copies of their Intake questionairres please
wait I see in email from Rick. thanks
@Cameron Rentch my text messaging is screwing up so sorry if you are getting multiple messages from me
@Cameron Rentch Let me know if this is okay to send:
“I confirm that after Patsy Miller left Shield Legal, she contacted me to let me know she had left the company and offered to help me with lead generation services. Name: _ Date: Signature: ”
@Cameron Rentch Here is the info about the Arizona JDC for Meadow:
Arizona Juvenile Detention Centers with a History of Sexual Abuse
• Quail Run Behavioral Health (UHS) • Palo Verde Behavioral Health (UHS) • Sonora Behavioral Health Hospital (Acadia) • Devereux Advanced Behavioral Health Arizona • Oasis Behavioral Health Hospital (Acadia) • Mingus Mountain Academy - Sequel
Claimant must currently be under the age of 30 to bring the case as well..
@Cameron Rentch I had a talk with Justin Witkin this morning and they would like to try and run some very quick and targeted Sexual Assault campaigns. Even if there turns out to only be a few claimants they have been running these types of things in-house and want to see if we can do it for them. Please see what Justin sent me after our call and let me know your thoughts…
Andy – Per our discussion this morning, attaching links to some of the narrow opportunities we’re pursuing. Once you take a look, let us know your thoughts and questions.
Thanks. https://katu.com/news/local/prosecutors-st-helens-choir-teacher-pattern-of-sexual-assaults-should-keep-him-in-jail https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/vancouver/2-administrators-on-leave-hudsons-bay-high-school-teacher-investigation/283-2e63ad04-6320-46b6-b2d3-2280861091e7 https://www.kptv.com/2024/12/20/st-helens-scandal-timeline-reveals-months-staff-suspensions-investigation/ https://www.kptv.com/2025/01/04/st-helens-high-school-teacher-arrested-more-sex-abuse-charges/
Justin G. Witkin
Aylstock, Witkin, Kreis & Overholtz PLLC
17 E. Main St., Suite 200
Pensacola, FL 32502
@Cameron Rentch Please see the attached for the criteria that Motley Rice wants us to use for them and Meadow. I have highlighted the differences. Please let me know if this is acceptable at the price point or what, if any changes we need made.
@Cameron Rentch Please sign for Kyle so they can fund. Or if you want I can sign
@Andy Rogers have it printed for Me and put on my desk. I’ll sign the second I’m In
@Andy Rogers how did you guys hear about us?
@Cameron Rentch I am in mediation for Patsy right now but wanted to call your attention to the email from Scott Hardy at LegaFi.
Please confirm or deny my reply and let me know if you’d like me to do anything else.
Thanks
We're on it @Andy Rogers I was triple confirming with Integrations that everything is ready
Hope yoi are feeling better and that the fires are no where near you
@Cameron Rentch POTENTIAL NEW CAMPAIGN
Greg has a client, which would be a new one for us, that is in LA and Greg has worked with them for over 10 years.
LA Fire Cases: • TOTAL BURN DOWN OF THE PROPERTY or PARTIAL BURN DOWN . • LOSS OF PETS OR LIVESTOCK, etc .. they are not interested in just SMOKE OR ASH CASES . • Initial budget around $200k to $250k FYI, They are also willing and able based on past fire cases success, to go out and meet the victims wherever they may be .
Please let me know what we can do here and any price points or specific information, data , etc .. we may need to close this deal or make it work.
@Cameron Rentch just got off a call with Todd Mathews. He is asking me if we can get Ozempic Blindness cases
Not likely @Andy Rogers tbh I don’t know anyone that has any
Also, he wants to get a call with you next week to get the Kuzyk thing resolved
The issue is that hard because you’ll get flooded with regular side effects. If you won’t take those it’s not worth it
@Andy Rogers will explain later and give more examples but we have updated all of our landing pages, privacy policies, and all TCPA disclaimers and entire intake processes as of EOD today. Alot to cover but I will review with you. For example of landing page update example see here:
https://lafirelawgroup.com/la-wildfires-cases/
See below form
@Cameron Rentch thank you. And yes I see the two check boxes. I am sure there is a lot more but I know you are doing it correctly
Dude it's been insane how much we overhauled, will go into in detail when we talk.
I bet, well it will be good to know before I head out to NTL so I can be armed with it.
also @Andy Rogers we need to send criteria and costs to Danny ASAP for Gaming, including post acquisition costs for Tier 1,2,3 (which need to be increased to 350/300/250). They want to put money in and have Valtasarian litigate, so they will do their own cases but work with the group. You will need to call Danny and ask him about co-counsel campaigns with Meadow too
if it is the same criteria as Alystock campaign yes we are good there. We can probably come down to 1500-1800 now, traffic is getting cheaper post holiday
@Cameron Rentch Ok, just remember Darren Miller is getting fully signed with gamer tags and everything for $210 each 🤣
@Cameron Rentch good morning. Two things…
I would like to catch up this evening at some point.
Second, can I sell a $250,000 wildfire deal if they agree to take whatever we are delivering to ACTS?
@Andy Rogers yes this evening is good. I’d rather not take any more litigating forms unless we have one that doesnt renew. Takes a lot of work as all campaigns are individually branded.
@Andy Rogers interesting
January 25, 2025 – More Marketing Fallout
A North Carolina law firm is facing a proposed class action lawsuit for allegedly making unsolicited calls to numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry to recruit clients for the Camp Lejeune toxic water litigation. The lawsuit accuses the firm and its Texas-based telemarketing partner, Legal Conversion Center (LCC), of violating the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA). The plaintiff, Wesley Newman, claims he received at least a dozen illegal calls between November 2022 and May 2023, including one instance where an LCC operator allegedly yelled, “You are the litigator, a**!” before hanging up. Can you imagine?
This case is one of several similar lawsuits targeting law firms over their client solicitation tactics for Camp Lejeune claims. Newman alleges that despite repeated requests to be added to the do-not-call list, the calls persisted, including those using pre-recorded voices. Plaintiffs in these cases, including a West Virginia woman who recently secured class certification in a similar action, are pushing back against what they describe as aggressive and illegal telemarketing practices in mass tort recruitment efforts.
The suit seeks damages of up to $1,500 per violation and an injunction to stop further unauthorized calls.
Very interesting. Do you have a link to that article?
@Cameron Rentch I have a potential new firm. Here is what they are asking me:
following criteria in all 50 states vs what you would charge if we were to run the same criteria but eliminate the following states from the campaign: Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, Michigan.
Here is the criteria:
must have been prescribed and had at least four injections of Depo-Provera or Depo-SubQ or a generic version of Depo-Provera
must have received the Depo birth control shot after 1992
must have been diagnosed with Meningioma (malignant or benign)
must have used one of the qualifying injections for at least 12 months
must have a minimum of 2 years latency from date of first injection to date of diagnosis
must know where they received the shots (doctor's office, pharmacy, planned parenthood, etc)
Death SOL applies, and must not be within 90 days of expiring. No other SOL checks apply
must not be currently represented by an attorney
must confirm they are not currently an inmate of a prison or jail
must confirm they have a valid US SSN# (although we will not collect their full SSN#)
@Cameron Rentch does the price change if they eliminate the 5 states they listed?
that is with the 5 states eliminated
@Andy Rogers get me these documents ASAP please for criteria, facility names, etc
@Cameron Rentch Ozempic? Are we able to do it? Same criteria we have run for Walsh in the past. Must be Ozempic or Wegovy
@Andy Rogers yes I will post to you the prior criteria to confirm, then will also send to Becker (talked with him last night)
Thank you he has asked me twice this morning.
thanks going good so far @Andy Rogers!
@Andy Rogers curious - what "Michael" was that in your email?
Kusyk….. j/k. It’s Blom with Jeffrey Phillips. They cornered me twice at NTL
@Cameron Rentch I need to do some more research on this, Adair PA Juv hall, shows that they have a balance left of $52,400 but we only owe them 2 more contracts. Craig is complaining that he wants his $52k back but let me get to the bottom of it. Just giving you a heads up
@Cameron Rentch You are going to LOVE this. LegaFi just sent me the attached criteria and is asking for pricing to continue our Paraquat for them but to go to these guys… DL. I need to give them pricing.
same as everyone, we have to do the full onboarding, etc and DL wont pay for it, so please get 19-19.5k. Great
@Cameron Rentch
The Bair Hugger Mass Tort was formed way back in December 2015!
This litigation has a lot of momentum now.
Last week, a judge in the EDPA denied 3M's motion for summary judgment and to exclude Plaintiffs' experts.
The Judge held that both Plaintiffs' general and specific causation experts satisfied the requirements under Rule 702 and could be presented to the jury.
The first MDL bellwether trial is set to kick off in April.
@Cameron Rentch Please review the deck I have attached. It is short and straight to the point as you asked. Let me know when we can review
let me review in a bit and call you to chat
Okay I think you will like it. Very straight forward
@Cameron Rentch please see the email I just sent to you and Jarret about a standard operating procedure
@Andy Rogers I need the Crump/ELG billing resolved today. Please make this a top priority.
@Cameron Rentch Jarret was supposed to be neeting with ELG Friday. I have reached out to Jon to find out where that is. I will stay on it
@Cameron Rentch Also, just finished with Marci at Child USA, I think this can be huge for us we can talk later. In the meantime here is the chart we put together. Please do not circulate just yet.
@Andy Rogers can you please find out from any firms taking PA juv abuse if they will take out of statute cases on investigative retainer at lower pricing (thinking 1500/per). This would help volume, also make sure you let them know what happened in CA with LA Juv hall out of statute cases
are you following the string w Nick's? Appears we are waiting on Becker?
@Cameron Rentch I am on with Becker right now. SA is obviously blaming us for everything.
Jon wants to talk to us ASAP. I told him you need 25 minutes. He said, that he is two hours ahead of us and needs to get his daughter soon. Can we please talk asap
I literally just need 20 minutes and I can talk
@Andy Rogers FYI - this bill was signed by governor and passed over the weekend.
HB1378 would lower the cap for public institutions to $400,000 and for private institutions to $700,000 for cases filed June 1 or later, when the new law takes effect. Claims before that would be subject to the original rules. The bill would also cap fees for attorneys at 20% for cases that settle out of court and 25% for cases that result from a court judgment.
also sharing this with you for reference...
I think we should also mention the potential litigating firm?
@Cameron Rentch Cam here is the criteria from AWKO for the LDS test. As you can see they are very wide on criteria. I really think we can make this work.
From Justin this morning after our call: “To memorialize, once we’ve agreed upon scope, we’ll launch a $250,000 test campaign. We’ll also need to discuss the work that we’ll have your team do in connection with the campaign vs. what AWKO resources would normally do.”
Easy straight forward criteria. (I think this wide open criteria should really lower the cost :-))
• An LDS member who was sexually abused while under 18 by an LDS leader in the PC’s ward or stake.
• Abused in the following states with state-specific SOL criteria.
• Louisiana – any age
• Maryland – any age
• Vermont - any age
• Washington - any age
• California – currently under age 40
• Connecticut – currently under age 48
• Delaware – born after 1986
• Florida – born after July 1988
• Maine – born after August 1970
• Illinois – born after 1983
• Minnesota – born after 1989
• Nevada – currently under age 38
• New Hampshire – born after 1990
• New Jersey – currently under age 55
• Oregon – currently under age 40
• Pennsylvania – born after 1989
• Texas – born after 1992
• Virginia – born after 1991
• West Virginia – currently under age 36
Please make sure you approve commissions today so Nsay can get them into payroll.
@Andy Rogers will do need to adjust for 594k refund for AWD, sent yesterday
Okay I didn’t know that was done yet, also we typically do it the month we send it. But whatever is fine
my bad for not letting you know been busy few days at office
That was a lot bigger than I thought. I don’t like chargebacks that big. But I get it :-(
Me either. Btw they held me hostage for it, but I didn’t feel it was worth ruining the relationship.
I agree. Good news is I am going to make it all up for us.
@Andy Rogers critical items needed ASAP:
- update from Crump and ELG on MI and Wood Pellet payments. please wrap this up, it's been 3 months
- Need VGA budget ASAP, using AWKO criteria
- Need approval to go back through AWKO old leads, sign under new criteria
- Need NEW Paraquat budgets
@Cameron Rentch Just had a meeting with Brian Glasser. He has a regional opportunity that could be a very easy and quick hit. He is getting me all of the data today but let me give you the heads up now as they want to get running ASAP.
West Virginia, there has been a hoptial system and listed doctors that have preformed bariatric surgery. And during those surguries approximately 80% or more of the patients were given a hernia surgery that was NOT needed.
He wants to market for people that had bariatric surgery in West Virginia at one of the listed facilities and during the procdue they had hernia surgery as well.
This could be an easy play, and potentially a national play that they will discuss with us. I promised privacy on this test, however I have told them that if this is something that could be nationally, we might want to open it up and they will be okay with that. He is just asking we keep this under the radar now. I will send you the details ASAP.
*Thread Reply:* @Cameron Rentch More info for the above:
Andy,
The names of the defendants are Robert B. Shin, MD and Samuel Rossi, MD, and Charleston Area Medical Center. We would like to engage Shield to do marketing for cases through signed retainers.
Here is a brief description of the case:
The litigation arises out of Dr. Rober Shin and Dr. Samuel Rossi performing unnecessary and invasive hernia surgery on patients during the performance of bariatric surgeries, the Defendants’ failure to obtain informed consent from patients for the performance of unnecessary and invasive surgical procedures, as well as the Defendants’ concealment of the fact that such unnecessary invasive surgical procedures had been performed.
@Cameron Rentch
- update from Crump and ELG on MI and Wood Pellet payments. please wrap this up, it’s been 3 months… We should have received $500,000 last week, $250k each. We will get another $300k, $150k each next month.
- Need VGA budget ASAP, using AWKO criteria … Working on this now
- Need approval to go back through AWKO old leads, sign under new criteria…Bryan was supposed to be on stage with me today but couldnt make it as he has a VGA meeting with defense. That said, I just spoke with him and I told him I need to get on this now and he promised me an answer by end of day tomorrow. He is going to speak with Justin and Kiley to tell us how much they are willing to take.
- Need NEW Paraquat budgets…There is an update today from Wagstaff and Motley Rice at the Harris Martin. I have been told that a lot of people are waiting to hear this. As you know the main concern here is if the settlement value is under $200k and they are worried that they are going to lose a large percentage of the cases based on needing a third party affidavit then $18k per signature just does not financially make sense. I do have a couple of people right on the edge right now and I am working on it.
@Cameron Rentch More info for the above:
Andy,
The names of the defendants are Robert B. Shin, MD and Samuel Rossi, MD, and Charleston Area Medical Center. We would like to engage Shield to do marketing for cases through signed retainers.
Here is a brief description of the case:
The litigation arises out of Dr. Rober Shin and Dr. Samuel Rossi performing unnecessary and invasive hernia surgery on patients during the performance of bariatric surgeries, the Defendants’ failure to obtain informed consent from patients for the performance of unnecessary and invasive surgical procedures, as well as the Defendants’ concealment of the fact that such unnecessary invasive surgical procedures had been performed.
@Andy Rogers ok no problem we can do this. Please get criteria and documents
@Cameron Rentch Is $20k all right for a test?
FYI, the PAraquat update was very interesting. I will update you later whenever we chat. Sorry about last night but by the time dinner was over and back to the hotel I couldn’t keep my eyes open.
@Cameron Rentch I have Malissa sneding the invoice now. Here is the criteria for the campaign. I will let you know as soon as we have the retainer and documents. They would love to start as soon as we have their money and everything we need from them.
Criteria is very straightforward:
• Not currently represented for this case
• Patient must have had hernia (hiatal) repair DURING THE SAME PROCEDURE as gastric sleeve/bariatric surgery.
• Surgery performed by either Robert B. Shin or Samuel Rossi.
• Looking for any patients having surgery meeting above criteria from 2012 to present.
*Thread Reply:* It should say Bariatric Surgery Only no gastric sleeve
@Cameron Rentch I am up in my room for about 35 minutes doing some emails. I have zooms after that and the conference.
@Andy Rogers is this split accurate?
@Cameron Rentch I messaged Ryan earlier and asked him why I am speaking with and managing Crump almost daily and now I am not getting any commission. All I got back from him was that we can discuss in Q4 if I think that is not fair.
I told him we need to talk but I have been in meetings all morning
I don't understand why he has you getting commission on 22,500 vs 120,282 or why you guys don;t just split it all? Can you please call him before I approve this?
I will try him in a minute. I don’t understand it either. I mean considering I am doing almost all of the work and managing.
I’ll try him now
@Cameron Rentch CALL ME ASAP. Not sure how to answer a text
@Cameron Rentch Please see the attached document that I would like to send to Greg Genson. He has been all over me every day wanting to get somthing finalized. I would like to offer him this position, at least until the end of the year and really focus him on this aspect of growth. It is needed and I believe it will be very beneficial.
I would basically be keeping his comp the same as it is now. I will make it clear that the $6k a month will be for the last 6 months of the 2025 calendar year and that we, you and I, will discuss prior to year end and access the success of this position.
THank you
@Andy Rogers I will support whatever, but you will need to get this cleared with Marc. I know he has been now deadset on only paying commission , or draw against. I would suggest you send an email to us both with recommendation and include what you anticipate Greg generating etc? Make sense?
@Cameron Rentch I have sent and laid out my argument for you both in an email. Thanks.
Also let me know when you want to chat about Marty and SGGH. Thank you
@Cameron Rentch Marc just texted me that he is calling me in 30 minutes just so you know. THanks
@Cameron Rentch I just got off a call with AWKO. As you know they sent the additional $250K for the Mormon LDS campaign, however they have received a total of 119 retainers and 104 of them are out of statute. They are telling me that these ratios are just not sustainable for them. I know that this campaign is tough. Do we want to tell them that we will wind it down?
in comparison, DL Flatirons has 107 total and only 57 are OSOL. Are they using different criteria?
@Andy Rogers let's discuss today, nothing I am aware of with SOL's
@Cameron Rentch this is from Justin at AWKO on their LDS
Thanks Andy. I think the focus should be directed to CA, OR, WA, and NV.
Warmest regards,
@Andy Rogers URGENT
Need new budgets on NEC, Paraquat and Chowchilla ASAP LIKE ASAP. Less that 2 weeks in DL Flatirons
@Cameron Rentch Any interest in doing an Oxybryta campaign?
Criteria pretty straightforward 1) they took Oxbryta 2) had a VOS crisis while taking the medication
It was from someone I gave to Sean. I glanced at the email but when I went deeper, the budget is $15k to $20k not $150k to $200k like I thought I read. Just feels like a tiny ass budget and not worth your time
yeah no way, its also o ver 10k per sign up lol
btw I am talking with sean at 530, and added a call for you, me and Marc at 6.
do you want to me on call with me and Sean?
I have tried with Sean.
Also you still good for the call with Mark, Malissa and Greg at 3:30 right ?
lastly, can you me and Jon Wright have a quick call at 3:15 PST?
I would honestly prefer not to be on the call with Sean and you. I don’t want this to turn into a negotiation.
@Cameron Rentch Jon is with the wedding planner and cannot do a call right now. Said he can tomorrow morning if you’d like
@Andy Rogers all good. Do you think you could see if Jon can talk in the morning at 9:30 AM Pacific?
@Andy Rogers good morning! Hey can we do the 1pm call tomorrow instead of today?
thanks @Andy Rogers we can have you, me, ryan and Joe
@Cameron Rentch Parker is sending in $25k for a test on this. It is there money. They want it up ASAP. This takes priority for them.
We will need aggressive campaigns for Dr. Oumair Aejaz (3 women say Michigan doctor Oumair Aejaz secretly filmed them in swim school changing area). The targeted facilities are below:
• Ascension Genesys Hospital, Grand Blanc • Criteria is for any and all patients who treated with Dr. Oumair Aejaz at Ascension Genesys Hospital, Grand Blanc. Please note that Dr. Oumair has a brother who is a physician at Detroit Medical Center (DMC) in Detroit, and we are NOT taking those cases. Continued criteria is date of treatment after June 15, 2022. Claimants will be required to provide medical records confirming treatment within 30 days of representation, and we will need to include a disclaimer in our fee agreement. Can you spin something up ASAP?
@Andy Rogers ok just fyi people have been running this for a few months. Not sure what is out there
I am reaching back out to him now.
Side note, I had our Bi_weekly call today with Ben Gard and the team from Anapol Weisz on TVM. Everyone is very happy with how things are running right now.
I also had a call with Tom Anapol this morning with Mahendra at Rocade and it looks like they are going to lock in a deal or two with us. STay tuned on that one
@Cameron Rentch The reason he wants to launch ASAP is because Parker has a settlement of $130M being announced on Monday and he thinks that might draw some more quick attention. He understands it could be a waste.
@Andy Rogers get everything to Malissa asap so she can get campaign set up
@Cameron Rentch LDS Campaign with AWKO. I know you have been super busy plus on vacation so I have tried to leave you alone. THat said, I need to give Justin some feedback on the changes we are making to this. They are not seeing the value in the OSOL especiallly at the numbers we are at. There position is that they have spent over $350k for 15 in statue cases and at over $20k per this is not working. If there is nothing we can do then that is fine, I will tell them sorry it didnt work and we will just need to shut it down. I know we said it was going to be tough at the onset but we are just at the point now where they need to make some decisions.
@Cameron Rentch Are you okay with me taking an order for $250,000 from Baypoint on San Diego? Please see the email from them:
Hey Andy –
Hope you’re doing well. Looking forward to seeing you next month.
We’re ready to move on a San Diego campaign with Parker. Initial buy is $250K with more behind it if it goes well. We’re open to having a few cases in other CA jurisdictions but prefer the strong majority in San Diego. Can you have your team work up the IO and invoice? To be funded this week.
No San Diego. It sucks impossible to get cases so far. Can San Bernardino but require in and out of SOL
Re LDS we just updated LeadsPedia with new filters to fix. But we just turned back on (please confirm w Maniora). Should see better results within 2 weeks or so…
@Cameron Rentch Jennifer at AWKO is interested in doing Hair Relaxer with us. Below is their criteria. Plz confirm you are good with me taking an order on this and at what price point? Finally let me know if you want to be on our call tomorrow to lock down NEC and HR.
Criteria: ACCEPT: -Used a hair straightening product, relaxing product and -Experienced at least one of the following cancers: o Uterine cancer, endometrial or ovarian cancer -Used product(s) 5 or more times in a year and -4 years or less latency between last full year of product use and cancer dx -Death cases with a Uterine or Ovarian Cancer claim (IF they meet all other accept criteria) -At time of diagnosis, did not reside in Kentucky, Louisiana, Tennessee or Puerto Rico
DECLINE: -No use of hair straightening or relaxing product(s) or -No cancer dx or -Uterine Fibroids DX even IF they have had one of the following procedures: Hysterectomy or myomectomy, endometrial ablation, Uterine Artery Embolization (UAE/UFE,) or curettage (D&C) -Did not use product(s) 5 or more times in a year or -More than 4 years of latency between last full year of product use and cancer dx or -More than 20 years since last product use -Diagnosis more than 10 years ago -Positive (+) BRCA test for gene mutation -Death cases with Fibroids as claimed injury -ONLY Revlon product use (Revlon, Crème of Nature, African Pride, French Perm, Fabulaxer, Revlon Professional, Revlon Realistic, Herbarich and All Ways Natural Relaxer) without ANY other manufacturer/brand use claimed -At time of diagnosis did reside in Kentucky, Louisiana, Tennessee or Puerto Rico
ATTORNEY REVIEW: -Anything not covered in above criteria -Any cases with a deceased injured party that do not fall within the specifics above -Keratin treatments. Need to know brand and if use was in home or salon. -IP age 70+ at time of cancer DX
@Cameron Rentch here is the NEC criteria for AWKO….
NEC Accept criteria: • Diagnosed with NEC after having been fed Enfamil or Similac product and while still in the NICU AND • Premature babies, born earlier than 36 weeks AND • Babies developed NEC at less than 39 wks adjusted gestational age AND • Low birth weight babies (Less than 5 lbs 8oz / 2,500 g) AND • Born on 01/01/2000 or later
@Andy Rogers missed above message re hair relaxer - looks great to me. We can def get this moving, we need about 3 weeks before starting Hair Relaxer, but we can take order and get set up
I have a follow up with Justin early next week on Hair Relaxer. NEC call went great, I need to send you everything they want from us, which will be easy. They are sending that to me over the weekend.
We will coordinate early next week and get started.
Not sure if you saw my text. I just spent over an hour with Jessica Pride. The first 20 was on Sandy Van.
Anyhow I’ll get you the details of what she is looking for. Plus she is going to come to Vegas on the 11th for the Child USA program I am hosting
She sent me a text asking if Sandy is "legit" lol
@Cameron Rentch plz make sure you get me the NEC pricing for AWKO asap.
@Cameron Rentch I am buggng you because I need an answer for NEC for AWKO
@Andy Rogers updates for powerpoint slide you provided:
- Slide 1 a. Update main title: "Shield Legal and Tort Intake Professionals Overview"
- Slide 2 a. no changes
- Slide 3 a. no changes
- Slide 4 a. no changes
- Slide 5 a. delete : Boutique firm, and no desire to change that b. change "Only offer campaigns that we are confident we can deliver" to "Carefully selected campaigns to ensure maximum performance and results" c. Delete" Other companies have large sales teams that have to sell as much as they can to meet sales goals and commissions. We do not. If we can't deliver high quality and at the volume, then we will not take more clients in a specific campaign.
- More changes to come a bit later today!
@Andy Rogers additional changes coming shortly
@Andy Rogers additional changes:
Slide 6
- update content "Our partner firms are among the best in this field, boasting proven track records of recovering over $100 billion for clients. They actively litigate claims and, unlike many others, do not push through weak claims or sit on inventories waiting for a global resolution. Instead, they lead or hold prominent positions in the dockets they invest in" to bullet points: a. Select and Preeminent Litigating Firms b. Proven Track Record of Top Results for Claimants c. Active Litigators with a track record of leadership within MDL's and various litigations Slide 7
- make all bullet points line up (left alignment) Slide 8
- Update: "Currently, Shield goes to market by backing into a targeted “Cost Per Signed Retainer.” This allows clients to feel comfortable about their costs, allowing Shield to concentrate on delivering quality through our intake center and not have the intake process cut short." TO: Shield Legal campaigns operate on defined metrics based on each firms specific requirements. We are able to target defined KPI's, such as "cost per signed contract" as well as others to ensure proper alignment with the firms objectives as well as to obtain maximum results" Slide 9
- Delete top section: Past Success & Failures: The Biggest Lessons Learned Come From Previous Owned Company a. The real value in controlling the entire process b. Shield Legal has not engaged in any "back-end" percentages for various reasons. Shield Legal uses the media, intake, and post-acquisition costs to back into a range of costs per onboarded client. This is far more than a "signed claimant," which results in drastically reduced fallout rates.
- Update "Lessons Learned" to " The Difference Makers" Slide 10 no changes
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Slide 15
- Update Claimant verification (ID verification via Dentity.com ) to Claimant verification (ID verification via Dentity.com and other compliant platforms)
- Medical record retrieval - DELETE
@Andy Rogers if you can update and send to me asap that would be great so I cant ship off!
@Cameron Rentch Here are all of the changes you requested. I am sending it to you in a PDF so to make it easier to distribute. Please review before you send.
@Andy Rogers perfecto! I am going to send an email and intro you, then you can send the deck behind my email
@Cameron Rentch Please see the link… These are the cases that WagStaff wants along with thier criteria. Plz look and let me know what you would like me to pitch them and pricing for it for them.
https://zkc.egnyte.com/fl/89GKYRYFWJ84
@Andy Rogers do you mind if we bring Carter into discussion for insight?
I am thinking Hair relaxer and Toxic Baby Food
@Andy Rogers can you please pull out the brief bio on me from the Presentation and put into a letterhead that can be used as a "resume" so to speak? Also, can you send me your linked in bio (I need these for the funding company that is sending hernia mesh money.
@Cameron Rentch I am attaching the quick “resume” for you on letterhead. As well as I am attaching my actual resume if you wanted it. This is what I sent to Child USA for my board appointment. If you want less here is the link to my LinkedIn Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewps22/
@Andy Rogers here is the backpage stuff https://www.backpageremission.com/
@Cameron Rentch Okay I hope this is what you wanted and is helpful
Here is a quick recap so you can get your bearings. • She did two buys ◦ First one for $517,500 at $7,500 a piece. That is the first box on the left. She got a total of 68 retainers ◦ Second one was for $157,500 at $9,100 a piece. Got a total of 32 (This one was not even supposed to include Thyroid Disease but it did include 9. And we over spent by $108,000 • I have asked her for the balance of $108,000 and that is when she was asking about the thyroid. • You can also see she has got a total of 100 and 73 (73%) are UC or Thyroid Disease. The box on the right shows all of her totals. • https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sLyFZvb_mwj-fR8RUs9yPU5m-MQu_jPsTGB5KeJKi9E/edit?usp=sharing
@Cameron Rentch Okay I hope this is what you wanted and is helpful
Here is a quick recap so you can get your bearings. • She did two buys ◦ First one for $517,500 at $7,500 a piece. That is the first box on the left. She got a total of 68 retainers ◦ Second one was for $157,500 at $9,100 a piece. Got a total of 32 (This one was not even supposed to include Thyroid Disease but it did include 9. And we over spent by $108,000 • I have asked her for the balance of $108,000 and that is when she was asking about the thyroid. • You can also see she has got a total of 100 and 73 (73%) are UC or Thyroid Disease. The box on the right shows all of her totals. • https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sLyFZvb_mwj-fR8RUs9yPU5m-MQu_jPsTGB5KeJKi9E/edit?usp=sharing
In Pennsylvania, victims of childhood sexual abuse born after November 29, 1989, have until age 55 to file a civil lawsuit. For criminal charges, the statute of limitations has been eliminated for offenses against minors, meaning prosecution can occur at any time.
This is a result of Act 87 of 2019, which significantly reformed Pennsylvania's statute of limitations for sexual abuse claims. However, the law's applicability depends on the specific date the abuse occurred.
If the abuse occurred on or after November 26, 2019 • Civil lawsuits: A person who was sexually abused as a minor (under 18) has until their 55th birthday to file a civil claim. • Criminal charges: The criminal statute of limitations was eliminated for offenses committed against a minor, meaning a perpetrator can face criminal charges at any time. • Victims between ages 18 and 24: If the abuse occurred when the victim was between 18 and 24, they have until their 30th birthday to file a civil lawsuit. If the abuse occurred before November 26, 2019 • The old law applies: Because Act 87 is not retroactive, claims for abuse that occurred before the law's effective date are subject to the previous statute of limitations. • Previously time-barred claims: Claims that had already expired by November 26, 2019, remain time-barred unless a "look-back" window is created. • Current efforts for a "look-back" window: The Pennsylvania legislature is still considering legislation (House Bills 462 and 464 as of May 2025) that would establish a two-year window to allow victims with previously expired claims to file lawsuits.
In Pennsylvania, victims of childhood sexual abuse born after November 29, 1989, have until age 55 to file a civil lawsuit. For criminal charges, the statute of limitations has been eliminated for offenses against minors, meaning prosecution can occur at any time.
This is a result of Act 87 of 2019, which significantly reformed Pennsylvania's statute of limitations for sexual abuse claims. However, the law's applicability depends on the specific date the abuse occurred.
If the abuse occurred on or after November 26, 2019 • Civil lawsuits: A person who was sexually abused as a minor (under 18) has until their 55th birthday to file a civil claim. • Criminal charges: The criminal statute of limitations was eliminated for offenses committed against a minor, meaning a perpetrator can face criminal charges at any time. • Victims between ages 18 and 24: If the abuse occurred when the victim was between 18 and 24, they have until their 30th birthday to file a civil lawsuit. If the abuse occurred before November 26, 2019 • The old law applies: Because Act 87 is not retroactive, claims for abuse that occurred before the law's effective date are subject to the previous statute of limitations. • Previously time-barred claims: Claims that had already expired by November 26, 2019, remain time-barred unless a "look-back" window is created. • Current efforts for a "look-back" window: The Pennsylvania legislature is still considering legislation (House Bills 462 and 464 as of May 2025) that would establish a two-year window to allow victims with previously expired claims to file lawsuits.
@Cameron Rentch Here is the criteria for Depo for Napoli. They are looking to start with $500,000 as the inital spend. with a budget that can go up from there.
Dep-Provera Intake Criteria • Depo Provera use for at least 4 cycles (12 months) • Injury: Diagnosis of Intracranial mengioma (intracranial meningioma is a medical condition in which a tumor forms in the meninges, the membranous layers surrounding the brain and spinal cord) ◦ Used brand name Depo-Provera, Depo-SubQ Provera or a generic form of these birth control shots called medroxyprogesterone acetate ◦ Used Depo-Provera at 4 cycles (12 months) before meningioma brain tumor diagnosis. ◦ Must have a diagnosis of meningioma brain tumor at least one year after using after using Depo-Provera, Depo- SubQ Provera or a generic form of the birth control shot • Depo-Provera, Depo-Provera, Depo-SubQ Provera or a generic form use any time after 1992 • No Previous or existing attorney representation
Looks pretty straightforward. How does this compare to Meadow criteri?
@Cameron Rentch only real difference is 4 shots for Napoli and it was only 2 for Meadow