Hey for 354360
would you agree the E-Signed Date is 10/17/2024 11:49:27 AM?
E-Signed Date is based on when they signed the retainer which looks like they didn't sign anything when I go under documents
Since this date is when it went into signed e-signed QA which is a form of a "final"
But I can see why you would say that date since that's when they did their documents and then later on Alan probably noticed this profile needed their status changed
So I think there isn't a wrong answer technically since no documents was signed with this law ruler profile
Hey Nick. This is the excel file (the tab to the far right) shows us which ones actually needs their information update in LR. (The API call discussion we had earlier ago). Looks like about 5k of them needs to be updated (minimum) and if dustin script does an API call 3 times as well that may mean 20k api calls. Giving this to you just in case since eventually we need to update these and I think we may need to discuss this with Joe and LR, etc so that LR performance doesn't go affecting others in the call center, etc. Let me know if you have any questions about it
@deleted-U06C7A8PVLJ hey I have a question for you regarding the intake processes. Do the agents (as long as the PNC doesn't immediately opt out) always send the e-sign docs even if they are not qualified? Do we do it just to get them to sign that their statement is true even if it means they don't qualify?
Once the intake agent believes they are qualified they will send out the e-sign doc to the PNC
so if they feel like they wont be then they don't right?
They wouldn't send if they the intake agent didn't believe they are qualified
didn't know if we would get the signed to just like solidify their response if ever in the future it was in question or something
lol one more question. Only those needing medical info require a HIPPA doc?
Or is it standard thing because all of these cases have some sort of medical thing being physical or mental damage of some sort? Or to just have it in case?
I would assume yes to this: Only those needing medical info require a HIPPA doc?
Ya just wanted to make sure we don’t always include it
I think most cases have it but I don't think all based on what they are suing for haha
Lastly Signed e-Sign QA status can be a “final” status correct? Like it will indefinitely stay there and not go Final but that is okay?
We have Signed e-Sign QA because sometimes we had accidently changed it to a different status after it was signed e-sign final. So since we can't put it back into signed e-sign final since it will send out an automation we created SIgned e-SIgn QA
Do we use the “Signed Contract - Intake Complete”? If so, is the equivalent of a final?
When would we use it vs one of the other final statuses
Okay I got confirmed that is an old status and no cases are using it so disregard intake complete one
Does anyone use the HIPPA signed status?
Were you interested in the BI Flatirons role?
Hey Nick. Can you let Brittany know about my time card in the terms of what you stated since what I showed Cameron and as I was waiting for him was all business related 🙌
Posting since I told her that I'll do a time correction for it prior to you telling me that so may be easier if you stated that as well
Hey Nick. Let me know when you are available so we can head our way to Shellie
If possible, if we can set up a meeting with Ryan tomorrow with Ahsan so we can ask him more questions about the flatirons financials that would be greatly appreciated. I want to understand the "table" of ryan's like where it is pulling it's data, how is it calculated, etc so that if something is off I am not just accepting his tables as the source of truth but also able to reconcile it properly. I say tomorrow because I believe that is Ahsan's last day (my guess) and he does the weekly flatirons things so he can probably ask the more "better" questions on where each fields is getting their values, etc.
did you have this issue with JPs latest file?
Hey @Nicholas McFadden friendly heads up. For our 1:00 pm meeting I think we should cancel it because:
@Nicholas McFadden I shall send you the report shortly but to answer your question we are only off by 1 which is this lead ID #. 725498 Currently it is in Signed e-Sign FINAL status which is billable.
The reason it isn't on the flatirons benchmark that Alan and Cameron sees in the daily is because this lead became final AFTER we received our report at 12:00 am this morning. Therefore it wasn't included since this went into final today.
Tomorrow or Monday when we paste in the data into All data tab it will be there. So it was a "timing" thing. I am also attaching a screenshot to verify that this lead indeed went into final AFTER we received our morning report
Here is that report. The first tab to the left I highlighted that lead ID # yellow to show it is in Law Ruler but not in flatirons benchmark because our daily report was generated BEFORE that lead went into final which it went into final at 6:00 am - ish while we receive our report 12:00 am ish
great work
319 is the correct total count it should be 318 is what is shown in flatirons benchmark
it will be updated to 319 when we receive our next report (unless they need it to show that today then we will have to run a fresh new report which I will get reporting team to do that if needed)
For Signed & DECLINED statuses they are matching. 19 with 19. (Just in case you need that too)
They are wanting to make our numbers match to this
which is what they send us but if they don't exactly it is probably due to something we harded or don't have the ID for or something
Not saying they don't but just want confirmation. I am conducting an interview
Copy. I can check if all those 319 law ruler ID #s are in that excel file you sent me (jp's report) ?
He said make sure every single claim in there matches what we have in our reports
it should since we use that file but if we have hard coded things in we need to address why
Ah i see and the "hard coded" will be the config file that has one for one matching (law ruler + case number)
Ya ultimately need to just confirm we have all of those in there file in ours and the only reason I can think of why it wouldn't is due to having to hard code something or its closed on our end but not theirs etc
Yeah I am researching it as we speak and looks like that since they all have law ruler ID #s to them so maybe they are not the correct law ruler ID #. I will investigate
So far these are the ones that did not match (I am going to look into LR ID#s that they have to see if wrong case type or wrongly matched, etc)
506323 - Case type is MD Juv Abuse TV - DiCello Levitt - DL/Flatirons - Shield Legal and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal 497150 - Case type is MD Juv Abuse TV - DiCello Levitt - DL/Flatirons - Shield Legal and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal 543337 - Case type is MD Juv Abuse TV - DiCello Levitt - DL/Flatirons - Shield Legal and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal 496241 - Case type is MD Juv Abuse TV - DiCello Levitt - DL/Flatirons - Shield Legal and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal 510010 - Case type is MD Juv Abuse TV - DiCello Levitt - DL/Flatirons - Shield Legal and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal 568172 - Case type is MD Juv Abuse TV - DiCello Levitt - DL/Flatirons - Shield Legal and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal
Is that fine?
598285 572575 These two leads have a law ruler ID # that are hair relaxer and not MD Juv Hall Abuse - DL/BG - Flatirons - Shield Legal. Someone must of matched it wrong or sent them a hair relaxer client for MD Juv Hall BG Flatirons
These last two looks like we may just need to update the config to have them match properly which I can do that now. Case Number Law Ruler ID 255513 385248 304213 362640
Okay I reached out to Alan he said he will look at it with me but is taking his lunch at this moment @Nicholas McFadden
Also I updated our config to the correct needles (posting for yours and my reference)
Ill be done here soon. Then we can sit down
The ones to the left are the old needles and the ones to the right is the new
Not having a DL case number match shouldn’t affect our financial benchmark
Just please confirm the financial report count is also matching up.
Not just the data file but how the actual roll up and counts are calculated. Does that make sense?
Just confirm the code is picking things up properly
Right up email for all the differences that materially matter to them. Thanks again
Sounds good. I finished talking to Daniel and we went into detail for all of them. I wanted to see if I can call you (if you have a chance) we so can discuss the email part? I have the report here but I can go over the details with you and I can then give you the proper counts
I am getting that email prepared for you and I'll send it to you so that you can tell me if it has everything you need or if we need more details
Ya send it I’ll try to look before take off
I typed it normally and used AI to make it sound a bit more professionally.
Here is my original email however I think the one I sent you sound more professional. Just in case you want to compare the two
I’m going to forward it to them. Should be a good show of your skills!
Also a big shout out to daniel because of him I couldn't have found this. This is why I also need litify access lol
Wait those 6 at the bottom those were never sent to DL?
The whole additional findings section
How does that affect the numbers?
Basically we looked up those clients in litify and we don't see a profile created for them
The duplicates doesn't affect their numbers since they are going to be treated as "one" instead of two
Daniel and I verified we found 6 (which was bottom of their email) are not within JP's report nor do they have a litify account
So I am guessing if we have 320 and they only have 285 then they may need 15 + 20 which is 35 to get it from 285 to 320
Also brittany has offered us help on this with her team tomorrow since some agents want to do OT. Not sure if we can also have this additional assistance
There are 4 I couldn't match with in Litify but for the most part yes
So I got the intake ID, secondary IDs and matched with case numbers and I found which clients they don't have in their report (JP's report): Is there anything else to the audit you think is worth checking out or additional things?
not at the moment
Oh okay. Yeah I can do that for the other campaigns. I got majority of the MD BG/DL one complete too. I am just working on storing this into a nice gold set table to keep track of and also updating the vitals on it too (so that law ruler has it) and so does my table
let me take a look
Hey @Nicholas McFadden I had sent you those intake / secondary files through your email
Feel free to forward it to Doug and/or edit the email a bit then send it to him.
Also if you can CC me on there I can reply back to it if he has any questions about it as well.
“Flatirons SA Pivot Tables”
Hey @Nicholas McFadden when you get the chance sobo wanted to ask you questions about the DeMayo to pick your brain if it would work better as a solution compared to creating new case types
We popped by your office but didn't see you so he wanted to follow up with you on this tomorrow if needed
Hi @Nicholas McFadden may you give me your approval on this by letting sean know that I am requesting two 27 inch screen protectors
Hey Nick. I was able to wrap up those two dashboards and now going to sleep. Cameron stated he needed a rush order on the San Bernardino one so he gave me time for today so I am sending that to him (the link) and hopefully he doesn't have too many questions to ask about it since I shall be getting some sleep right now 😅
Daily / Weekly / Monthly tasks Hi @Nicholas McFadden I am sharing with you the spreadsheet as requested that holds what I think are my daily / weekly / monthly tasks for you to share with Cameron if needed or anyone else
I will add more if more comes to mind but I summarized it all for now
Daily / Weekly / Monthly tasks Hi @Nicholas McFadden I am sharing with you the spreadsheet as requested that holds what I think are my daily / weekly / monthly tasks for you to share with Cameron if needed or anyone else
Basically is la count or ca juv hall (not sure which exact case type) but one of them it is saying 05/04/2025
Here are my findings so far. Will be digging into more about the code. It must of happened within the last 7-14 days is my guess since is around when we started receiving the .csv
Still working on the validation enhancement part of the script but giving you a sneak peak of an ideal "error" where if things are not matching it will stop script and let me know what the issue is. Will go over more with you in detail once I get it sorted out
Note not all of those are mistakes but rather just me testing it out
Ok looking good
Yeah I am also going to figure out the logic to look for .csv instead of .xlsx but otherwise the two things we discussed I should have that ready by today
Okay I will post into the group chat that we are in that I was able to add in those features and next week we can review the code if needed but I built in those checkers, it will tell me the problems in a print statement and it was the column headers that caused it not to paste correctly which I fixed that. Also code now accepts .csv instead of .xlsx which we can always switch to .xlsx or build for both but for now it should be fine with .csv
Well iron out the rest together
I just have to get the financials by Tuesday
Thanks ! I am going to see how I can improve the code some more now that I am doing the reconciliation daily I can see how I can make it better. Sending a screenshot so you can see how it looks when it is successful:
Oh okay let me know if you need help with that I can see what I can do if needed
Awesome logging
I think we will be good just have to focus and validate that we are accounting for as much as we can
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah when I was reviewing the ones nancy was sending it didn't make sense to me at first so I can see why she asked lol
One day we will have nice and clean data one day lol
Ya lol well good work let me know if you need anything
Sounds good. Will do thanks for the good idea on those validation checks :catroombaexceptionally_fast:
@Mark Maniora @Malissa giving you all a heads up, we are going to be testing a statewide CA JDC campaign. So you can understand how this will be set up and need to managed I am putting instructions below.
I think we should still let Ryan know for all his dashboards, if they rely on Signed & Declined to also include the re-triggered version of it. Just to cover our tails
What do you think could be the reason for the 3 Cam questions? Backfill?
The weird part is he is saying revenue
Also I am wondering if the reconciliation that Zek and Brittany is doing if they are fixing things that were missed
In the weekly file you send Nancy
Yeah I am wondering if that is the case if we checked the benchmark report from last week compare to the previous week before that that may do the trick
Do you see new leads for those campaigns recently?
If they’ve been turned off we shouldn’t have it in our reports but if we do we need to figure out which leads it thinks are going he extras and see what’s going on with them
Yeah. I am going to be sending a bunch of screenshots to help with the investigation here
Tab is CL EO. The difference is only week 17 and difference is 10,500
I recalled updating these values in template 1 on Monday based on whatever values what in Ryan's tables (the same bigquery that I use every week) so the changes has to have came from there in my opinion
So based off that, that is telling me someone is reconciling to doing things in law ruler which ultimately got reflected into me manually changing those values
But what could they do for that to show up?
Like why would updating answers or moving status to retrigger increase the revenue?
That is a good question. I shall look into that shortly with the benchmark reports. I am going to post more screenshots
Looks like each got 1 more lead
They aren’t reaching out to the PNC during the reconciliation correct? Like they aren’t calling those in limbo. That haven’t progressed in the milestones but finally got a couple?
That is a good question for operations tbh since I am not sure what their process is
This one above is weekending 1/7/2024 for CPAP - 362831 - Signed & declined, removed from financials, luis changed to signed and qa, it doesn't automatically go back into the financials then zek and brittany preform reconciliation and noticed it needed to be added back into the financials
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 254872
Approved to be SIGNED & DECLINED per Tony Jones. Call notes- Spoke with phillips representative, said the clients information does not pull up on their system. 5.21.24 8:30am: called, no answer. dial tone sounds toward the end and unable to leave VM 5.22.24 7:30 am: called, no answer. no dial tone, call just disconnected without possibility of leaving VM 5.23.24 6:24 am: Called, no answer. no dial tone, call discconnected without possibility of leaving VM
Moving to Signed e-Sign QA. Dicello has confirmed that this case is still open.
This one below is weekending 3/31/2024 for CPAP - 454308 - Signed & declined, removed from financials, luis changed to signed and qa, it doesn't automatically go back into the financials then zek and brittany preform reconciliation and noticed it needed to be added back into the financials
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 256513
Approved to be SIGNED & DECLINED per Tony Jones. Call notes- Not Registered with Phillips 5.21.24 8:37am called no answer. VM full, unable to leave a message. 5.22.24 7:46am called no answer. VM full, unable to leave a message. 5.23.24 6:27am called no answer. VM full, unable to leave a messge.
Moved to Signed e-Sign QA because Dicello has confirmed that this case is still open.
This one below is weekending 4/14/2024 for CPAP - 468814 - Signed & declined, removed from financials, luis changed to signed and qa, it doesn't automatically go back into the financials then zek and brittany preform reconciliation and noticed it needed to be added back into the financials
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 256848 Changed to Signed & DECLINED: None Changed to Signed e-Sign QA: Dicello has confirmed that this case is still open. Changed to Signed e-Sign Billable Declined by Firm: Decline per the firm: No medical diagnosis or unrelated medical diagnosis
Going to give you an example of one
Law Ruler ID: 468814 Case ID: 256848 • 07/07/2024 – LV Tony Jones moved client from Signed e-Sign FINAL → Signed & Declined. No decline reason noted. • 04/30/2025 – LV Luis Cortes moved client from Signed & Declined → Signed e-Sign QA after paralegal email confirmed client was “in settlement program.” (Billable status, but did not auto-update financials.) • 08/15/2025 – LV Dustin Surwill changed status to Signed e-Sign Re-Triggered so integration team could push client into DL (Litify). • 08/20/2025 – LV Luis Cortes updated to Signed e-Sign – Billable Declined by Firm after DL medical report showed closed case with rejection reason: “no medical diagnosis or unrelated medical diagnosis.” Key Issue: • When this client was first moved to Signed & Declined on 07/07/2024, financials required a manual update. • Later, when the status changed back into a billable category (Signed e-Sign QA), the financials did not update automatically. This required manual intervention and direct notification to Ryan / Zek / Edward, etc to ensure the client was re-added back into the financials. • This gap was only caught during reconciliation when TIP vs SL numbers were off, prompting a manual investigation. 👉 I’ve attached screenshots showing the status history, confirmation of the “in settlement” communication, and the most recent DL report confirming the closed/rejected outcome.
Summary: On 04/22/2025, we emailed the paralegal noting that this client was marked as Signed & Declined in Law Ruler but still showing as Open in Litify. The paralegal replied that the client was in settlement, so we updated the status from Signed & Declined → Signed e-Sign QA. Recently, the latest medical records report from JP now shows the client as Closed with the rejection reason “no medical diagnosis or unrelated medical diagnosis.”
When the client was first moved from Final → Declined, we correctly removed them from financials. However, when they later moved from Declined → Billable (QA), our financials process requires manual awareness to add them back in. Since that step didn’t occur at the time, it was only caught during the current financials cleanup and reconciliation.
Case Summary (Law Ruler ID: 468814, Case ID: 256848) • 07/07/2024 – Client was moved by LV Tony Jones from Signed e-Sign Final → Signed & Declined. No decline reason documented. • 04/30/2025 – After our 04/22/2025 email to the paralegal, they confirmed the client was “in settlement.” (Screenshots #3 & #4). Based on that communication, LV Luis Cortes updated the status from Signed & Declined → Signed e-Sign QA. This made the client billable again, but the change did not flow through to financials automatically. • 08/15/2025 – LV Dustin Surwill set status to Signed e-Sign Re-Triggered so the integration team could conduct the backfill into Litify. • 08/20/2025 – LV Luis Cortes updated the status to Signed e-Sign – Billable Declined by Firm after DL’s medical records report showed the case as closed with rejection reason: “no medical diagnosis or unrelated medical diagnosis.” (Screenshot #2)
Key Issue: When the client was first marked Signed & Declined (07/07/2024), they were correctly removed from financials. However, when the client later transitioned back into a billable status (Signed e-Sign QA), there isn’t an auto update into the financials because we want to manually review before changing the financials. At present, once a client hits a billable status it is recorded, but subsequent status changes require manual awareness and intervention to ensure financials remain aligned. This gap meant the client remained excluded from financial until we made the changes during our current reconciliation project.
Supporting Evidence: • Screenshot #1 – Client Rejection Reasons.png: Rationale behind status toggles between closed/open. • Screenshot #2 – JP Medical Record Report 08/28/2025.png: DL report confirming closed/rejected outcome. • Screenshots #3 & #4 – SL Emails DL Paralegals.png / Paralegal Replied Back to SL.png: Email exchange showing paralegal confirmation of “in settlement” status. • Screenshot #5 – Status History – Law Ruler.png: Complete history of client’s status changes.
Edward receives a daily status report that includes all signed & declines all times. He runs a SQL query to notify which ones are in a billable status in TIP's database while the law ruler report says they are signed & decline. Once he receives those leads he manually updates those billable leads to signed & declines to reflect what law ruler says. He then posts those lead IDs in admin tip logistics - slack channel so that Zek can then remove those clients from SL financials
SELECT signeddate,currentstatus,parentcasetype,typeofcase,lpleads1, firstname, lastname, lpleadid, lrleadid,** FROM public.financial_log WHERE ( -- CUT AND PASTE THE NEW ONES FROM THE TIP SQL TOOLS SHEET BELOW HERE -- DO NOT DELETE THE BRACKETS
lrleadid = '585829' OR lrleadid = '579381' OR lrleadid = '579092' OR lrleadid = '576732' OR lrleadid = '578756'
) AND currentstatus NOT IN ('Signed & DECLINED', 'Signed e-Sign - Billable Declined by Firm', 'Signed e-Sign Client Opt Out') ORDER BY signeddate DESC
This one below is weekending 4/28/2024 - CL EO Tab - 478319 Signed e-Sign Final to Client OPT Out on 04/24/2024 08:25:37 AM then into Signed e-Sign Client Opt Out on 04/24/2024 01:40:46 PM then went into Signed e-Sign QA on 04/30/2025 06:16:29 PM then to Signed e-Sign RE-TRIGGERED on 08/15/2025 08:34:35 PM.
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 257388
Changed to Client OPT Out because PNC called in to put a hold on the filing process because of fees - wants to cancel filling
Changed to Signed e-Sign QA because DL confirmed that this case is still open
This one below is weekending 6/16/2024 (part 1) - CL Tab - 502902 Signed e-Sign FINAL to Signed & DECLINED on 01/16/2025 05:43:34 PM, then Signed & DECLINED to Signed e-Sign QA on 04/30/2025 06:12:10 PM then Signed e-Sign QA to Signed e-Sign RE-TRIGGERED on 08/15/2025 08:34:35 PM.
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 259157
*Thread Reply:* Changed to Signed & DECLINED due to JP's Medical Tracker showing closed
Changed to Signed e-Sign QA because DL confirmed that the case is still open.
Week 27 for CL is off by two. I only found 1 so far
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 303114; Went from Signed e-Sign QA WIP to Signed & DECLINED on 08/06/2024 because the PNC's diagnosis is not confirmed. The file was WIP'd on 7/24/24 to confirm his diagnosis. The PNC has been unresponsive to all phone calls; however, the PNC texted an image of his medicine when asked about his diagnosis on 7/30/24. The PNC opted out of texting the following day and has been unable to answer any calls. Then went from Signed & DECLINED to Signed e-Sign QA on 04/30/2025 due to DL confirming that the case is still open.
@deleted-U06C7A8PVLJ for week 30 there is a change of two as well but I could only find one. Both weeks only had 10 leads but financials increased to from 9 to 11 so no clue where that 11th lead is
Okay I am getting together with James to see if he can run something in bigquery to help us with that
Weekending 08/11/2024 - CL TAB - 505123 History: 08/07/2024 08:39:30 AM - Signed e-Sign FLAGGED to Signed & DECLINED then 04/30/2025 06:13:10 PM Signed & DECLINED to Signed e-Sign QA then 08/15/2025 08:34:35 PM Signed e-Sign QA to Signed e-Sign RE-TRIGGERED
*Thread Reply:* Changed to decline because the PNC is unsure if he has a liver or kidney ailment and was unable to recall what his specific diagnosis was with the PD agent. The PNC was also unable to recall this information with the intake agents he had spoken to.
Changed from Declined to Signed e-Sign QA because DL confirmed that the case is still open
*Thread Reply:* DL Case Number: 303107
You can see that there are multiple leads going from decline status back into billable status after being in decline status for 6-12 months