Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-08-20 16:22:10

@Nicholas McFadden @Ryan I did three more interviews today with Data folks. All are aligned with working in office, in teams, aware of evenings and weekends.

Tsege - great personality, potential for management as she currently is in charge of onboarding and training new team members and checking their work James - very good communicator and strong customer engagement experience. Has some inherent leadership qualities, need to unpack his management experience Zekarias - not the most dynamic but may have the strongest skill set (heavy SQL)

I want to reiterate, as a company we are really "investing in people". I will take people that have a strong work ethic, a desire to work hard, and have a great attitude any day of the week ahead of someone that has the "best talent" but doesnt work hard. Please keep this in mind. You can always teach someone new skills, you cant teach them to work hard.

Our plan is to hire 4 to 5 people, immediately, within 10 days, one of which as the manager of the team. Let's roll.

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-08-20 16:22:15

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL ^

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-20 16:22:50

LFG!!

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-20 16:24:41

Thanks gentlemen -- @Nicholas McFadden - if you can share some days/times with me for meetings I will do my very best to get them aligned with your schedule.

Would this next round be virtual again (video/phone) or in person?

Thank you

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-20 18:58:07

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL 10:30am-Noon and 2pm-3pm each day this week I can be available

👏:skin_tone_4: Ryan
deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 16:18:03

@Nicholas McFadden

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 16:18:16

How about....

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 16:19:04

tomorrow: @ 11am for tsege @ 215pm for Zekarias

If this works for you, please send the video link you want to use to chat with them - otherwise I can have them call you directly on your cell - whichever you prefer.

Thanks.\

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-21 16:33:53

Interview - Tsege Thursday, August 22 · 11:00am – 12:00pm Time zone: America/Los_Angeles Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/uws-oynt-khe Or dial: ‪(US) ‬ PIN: ‪209 256 875‬# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/uws-oynt-khe?pin=1316971987172

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Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-21 16:34:33

Interview - Zekarias Thursday, August 22 · 2:15 – 3:15pm Time zone: America/Los_Angeles Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/stm-tczc-eeg Or dial: ‪(US) ‬ PIN: ‪411 598 570‬# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/stm-tczc-eeg?pin=4661214919356

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Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-21 17:19:44

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL please send their resumes

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 19:39:13
deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 19:39:27
deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 19:54:48

I like Zekarias - nice guy, easy to talk to. Slight accent, but not too bad at all. Working on a contract right now for Sutter Health, but no long term stability, so he's open.

He's currently making about $130k on the base -- but -- it's a contract, he doesnt have benefits, and he has zero long term stability or promises. He would be open to something closer to 110/120k on the base for the right situation.

He'd like to find somewhere close to home to put down roots. He lives close near summerlin, so your office move would be close to home for him. He is currently working remote for Sutter who is in CA -- and yes he understands this role with you is purely on site and hands on.

He has good SQL and API exposure, but very light in python. The one caveat on this guy is he doesnt have a ton of direct mgmt experience, which, I realize, may limit his earning potential for a higher level role - but, again, in the interest of showing you who is out there and ready to talk to - he's worthwhile, I think

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-21 19:55:07

Tsege - I actually liked her a lot. She does have a slight accent, but easy to understand and I liked her from moment one. My only downfall on her is that she does not have API experience. She has lots of SQL, and has ETL experience (tangential to API - but not the exact same thing). She has excellent tenure at Costco (4 years) and Bank of Texas ( 4 years). Is on the market because her contract is ending.

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-08-22 08:18:48

@Nicholas McFadden @Ryan you guys do not need to discuss any type of salaries with these folks. I will handle that directly with Cory.

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-22 08:29:28

I never discuss salary in interviews, got it.

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-08-22 09:21:02

No worries, just letting you guys know

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-22 15:03:23

@nick

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-22 15:04:00

@Nicholas McFadden - Do you still have availability to talk to James Turner tomorrow in those same open times?

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-22 15:40:48

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL I can do 10am-Noon but not 2pm

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-22 15:43:32

@Nicholas McFadden - lets do 1115am tomorrow for James, please

Will you please send the link ASAP - please and thanks

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-22 16:49:06

Interview - James Friday, August 23 · 11:15am – 12:15pm Time zone: America/Los_Angeles Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/mxn-nsab-nmt Or dial: ‪(US) ‬ PIN: ‪609 458 777‬# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/mxn-nsab-nmt?pin=9709607427947

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deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-22 17:17:55

@Nicholas McFadden - Are we moving both Zekarias and Tsege to the next step with Ryan?

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-22 18:31:55

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL Neither really have any experience with APIs or coding knowledge. When presented with a scenario of a non-respondent client Zekarias at least explained he would get on the phone and was more proactive in trying to solve it. I am afraid Tsege won't take initiative when resolving issues and just sit back and wait for an email response. Therefore of the two I would move forward with Zekarias.

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-22 18:50:10

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL @Cameron Rentch however with their SQL and Excel experience they might be good candidates for Brittany’s team and then we could shift Edward and/or Aiden over. Thoughts?

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-08-23 12:49:28

*Thread Reply:* @Nicholas McFadden not an option at moment.

👍 Nicholas McFadden
Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-23 12:50:50

*Thread Reply:* Okay no worries understood.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-23 12:29:41

@Ryan - unfortunately Jose has pulled himself from the process and has decided not to pursue our role any further - I apologize

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-23 12:38:06

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL , understand. Will await next interview.

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-23 14:14:13

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL @Cameron Rentch Just got done with James and I really liked our conversation. He has some basic Python knowledge but most importantly has experience with Power Automate and is a great communicator. His response to my scenario was by far the best. His eagerness to learn, be resourceful, and problem solve was great to hear and was more forthright than the other two candidates. Also, he was the only one that had truly insightful questions for me at the end. He does not have a lot of formal management experience but has been a team lead and been responsible for tracking and communication. I would feel comfortable putting him in front of any client engagement.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-23 14:33:19

@Nicholas McFadden - good for me to set up with Ryan?

☝️:skin_tone_4: Ryan
Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-23 14:34:42

Yes

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-23 14:36:51

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL, here is my schedule for Monday and Tuesday next week.

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-23 14:36:58

I'll be in Vegas:

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-26 17:25:10

@here , I like James. His tech skills are a little light but he would be the perfect person to connect to each clients non-technical, non-attorney contact for integrations.

Then he can learn more about our business and make an impact on the internal data warehouse, data marts and dashboards with a focus on user feedback, enhancements and ongoing support. He is a great fit for that need.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-26 17:37:10

@Cameron Rentch - what are your thoughts on that and do you want to move to offer stage for him?

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-08-27 10:01:24

make him offer @deleted-U056TJH4KUL keep going - we need to keep hiring for this team. Also, please see if we can identify a supervisor or manager within candidates

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-27 10:01:45

Yes sir

🙌 Cameron Rentch
🙌:skin_tone_4: Ryan
deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-27 10:52:47

@Nicholas McFadden @Ryan @Cameron Rentch -- Hey Nick and Ryan can we do a quick catch up?

We still have Zekarias (Zack) Haile and Tsege G in the process at this point. They spoke to Cam already, and then chatted with Nick last week on Thursday.

Are we moving them forward in the process to Ryan - or are we cutting them loose and passing on them altogether?

Thank you

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 11:47:27

@Nicholas McFadden @Ryan @Cameron Rentch - Hi Nick and Ryan, checking back in on this. Did you have thoughts on moving Zack and Tsege forward in the process?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-28 11:47:49

@Nicholas McFadden, let us know on Zack and Tsege.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 11:58:29

@Ryan - calling you shortly

☝️:skin_tone_4: Ryan
deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 12:00:18

@Ryan - i have an outdated number for you apparently

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 12:00:22

Can you tell me your cell, please?

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 12:00:26

I'll update it in my files

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-28 12:00:49

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 18:36:22
deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-28 18:36:42

Dustin Surwill: • Good comm skills • Open to looking after layoffs at his last company • Excellent tenure -- 3 years at last company, and 5 years at the one before • Seems to have strong API, Python, and SQL experience - happy to be hands on at all levels • Is working on finishing his bachelors at nights/weekends (go at your own pace classes) through an online university in Data Management/Data Analytics - He's the kind of guy that seems to want to just keep learning no matter what • Does not have a ton of actual hands on management skills - but he has reviewed other's work, and might be a good fit in the Supervisor role @Nicholas McFadden - can I get you on the phone with this guy ASAP please?

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-28 19:35:55

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL I would say lets move forward with Zack but not Tsege. Dustin looks great on paper and I hope it goes well! I can be available between 1-4pm tomorrow and 10-Noon Friday.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 11:14:50

@Nicholas McFadden - How about today at 2pm for you and Dustin?

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 11:15:06

@Ryan - morning, sir - What times today, tomorrow, or Tuesday would you like to talk to Zack?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-29 11:42:10

*Thread Reply:* @deleted-U056TJH4KUL, Tuesday from 11AM to 2PM PT works: https://calendar.app.google/dGYXStMtNLHausBx9

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-29 11:16:00

Interview - Dustin Thursday, August 29 · 2:00 – 3:00pm Time zone: America/Los_Angeles Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/wgq-ftrs-vud Or dial: ‪(US) ‬ PIN: ‪839 210 346‬# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/wgq-ftrs-vud?pin=6550161392724

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deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 11:53:09

@Ryan - Any chance you could do Tuesaday at 2 or 230?

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 11:53:14

Maybe 215/230?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-29 12:11:31

Sure. I can do 2 pm

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 12:51:58

confirmed for 2pm - will have him call your cell at that time

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-29 13:27:17

Thank you

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 16:09:19

@Nicholas McFadden - Hi Nick, are you logging in to the interview, sir?

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-29 16:15:21

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL yes on with him now

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 16:43:27

Excellent

Is he moving to Ryan @Nicholas McFadden ?

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-08-29 16:45:07

Yes and I would consider him for the manager position

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-08-29 16:45:32

@Ryan - would love to get him set up with you ASAP

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-08-29 17:46:47

Same time frame Tuesday @deleted-U056TJH4KUL

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-03 16:42:32

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL @Cameron Rentch @Nicholas McFadden

Spoke to Zack. I'm aligned with Nick on him, he's a good team manager that can handle the law firm integrations board, meetings, technical staff (David S. / Nick W. handle the legal staff). Then was we evolve the webhooks into a non-email solution and its own GCP application (if LawRuler doesn't solve it first), he can use his level 8 out of 10 rated SQL skills to help get the next iteration of Integrations solutions ready.

That is the priority I told him. Make the guys above him and the guys below him feel is his presence in supporting the total integrations team and he will be successful. He said he loves the sound of the opportunity.

He has my :largegreencircle:

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-09-03 17:48:09

good @Ryan make the offer @deleted-U056TJH4KUL

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-09-03 17:48:13

Manager^

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-03 18:18:28

@Ryan @Cameron Rentch - Do you guys want to hire 1 or 2 managers?

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-03 18:20:13

I could be wrong - but I thought Nick said Zack could be good for a middle of the road guy - not the Manager

I thought he was saying Dustin Surwill could be the Manager.

@Nicholas McFadden - can you opine please?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-03 18:22:05

@here , he can be the technical liaison if there is a better fit for manager.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-03 18:22:42

I personally think Dustin is the better Manager candidate.....but, I know, of course, you and Nick will know better than me.....

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-03 18:23:49

Let’s make the call after tomorrow once I talk to Dustin

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-03 18:23:55

Yes sir

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-04 15:54:31

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL @Cameron Rentch, Dustin has better skills on technical side and from a Manager candidate perspective he will excel at the "law firm tech contact" role once he understands our current integration solution, and his SQL can help on the next solution @Nicholas McFadden and I are envisioning.

He lacks some real "people management experience" but I told him that this role is managing the technical implementation of the integrations with enough engineering skills to really understand the issues from the Integration Engineers, solve their problems and help get us to next level on service, speed and scale.

Zack is not the best fit for this in comparison to Dustin. Zack would be a good Data Analyst doing SQL work for BI needs if that is a hire.

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-04 15:54:52

Dustin for Integrations Technical Manager a "Yes" :largegreencircle:

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-04 15:56:29

@Cameron Rentch @Ryan - I agree with you, Dustin is the better Manager candidate.

If we are all on board, I will make the offer to Dustin for the Mgr role -- but then the remaining answer is do we need another body in Zack for a day in/day out worker bee....?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-04 16:04:06

@Cameron Rentch, Zack could be the luke replacement so that Dustin, David S., Dwight, Ahsan, Nick W. and team can focus on Integration priorites. But glad to wait and use David S., Ahsan, whoever.

Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-09-04 18:07:57

@deleted-U056TJH4KUL hire both, we are going to lose people and or let people go if they cant perform efficiently. @Ryan API integration team first, every integration must be done timely, on time, and properly. So everyone can start there - keep your eye on Zack and let's make a decision on who to pull into any financial related role downstream based on performance and reliability.

👍 Nicholas McFadden
Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-05 09:43:18

Got it.

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-05 12:27:43

@Cameron Rentch @Ryan - Dustin Surwill has verbally accepted -- He could start as early as Monday, if you wanted, but I understand that's very soon.

When would you want him to start?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-05 12:31:14

@Nicholas McFadden @Cameron Rentch, Monday good?

Nicholas McFadden (nickmcfadden@shield-legal.com)
2024-09-05 12:50:15

I am good with Monday

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-05 12:51:51

Same

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-05 13:22:16

Shall I tell him Monday?

Ryan (ryan@themedialab.agency)
2024-09-05 13:22:26

Yes

deleted-U056TJH4KUL
2024-09-06 12:14:11

@Ryan @Cameron Rentch - Zack accepted 94k last night - He needs to hand in a more traditional 2 week notice.

We will work with Shellie now on getting that process started for his on boarding -- thank you

👏:skin_tone_4: Ryan
Cameron Rentch (cameron@internetthings.com)
2024-09-10 18:58:51

great!